-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To: mustangii@topica.com Subject: Digest for mustangii@topica.com, issue 3 Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 03:32:27 -0800 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Topica Digest -- [Fwd: door hinge pins] By stangii@mustangii.net Re: [Fwd: door hinge pins] By rebelmust@aol.com Re: [Fwd: door hinge pins] By guitwild@erols.com Re: [Fwd: door hinge pins] By guitwild@erols.com ------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 06:28:16 -0800 From: "Timothy Grahl" Cc: guitwild@mustangii.net Subject: [Fwd: door hinge pins] I forwarded this message to the list. Does anyone have or know where he can get these parts? Tim >Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 01:51:24 -0800 >From: "BILL ELLIOTT" >To: stangii@mustangii.net >Subject: door hinge pins > >Can anybody help me find new door hinge pins & bushings for my '78 >Mustang? > > > >------------------------------------------------------------ >Get your free email at the Mustang II Network >http://www.mustangii.net ------------------------------------------------------------ Get your free email at the Mustang II Network http://www.mustangii.net ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 16:20:27 EST From: REBELMUST@aol.com Subject: Re: [Fwd: door hinge pins] i have none of the hindge parts but have great used hindges complete 20.00 each,thanks steve ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 18:05:56 -0500 From: LYNETTE SHAW Subject: Re: [Fwd: door hinge pins] Tim, thanks for your help with this. Bill Timothy Grahl wrote: > I forwarded this message to the list. Does anyone have or know where he can get these parts? > > Tim > > >Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 01:51:24 -0800 > >From: "BILL ELLIOTT" > >To: stangii@mustangii.net > >Subject: door hinge pins > > > >Can anybody help me find new door hinge pins & bushings for my '78 > >Mustang? > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------ > >Get your free email at the Mustang II Network > >http://www.mustangii.net > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Get your free email at the Mustang II Network > http://www.mustangii.net > > _____________________________________________________________ > Get your favorite topic delivered daily. > http://www.topica.com/t/11 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 18:08:06 -0500 From: LYNETTE SHAW Subject: Re: [Fwd: door hinge pins] Thnks for your e-mail. If I can't find the parts I need, I will be getting in touch with you. Bill rebelmust@aol.com wrote: > i have none of the hindge parts but have great used hindges complete 20.00 > each,thanks steve > > _____________________________________________________________ > Get your favorite topic delivered daily. > http://www.topica.com/t/11 ------------------------------ End of mustangii@topica.com digest, issue 3 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To: mustangii@topica.com Subject: Digest for mustangii@topica.com, issue 4 Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 03:32:43 -0800 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Topica Digest -- New Articles area By stangii@mustangii.net Re: New Articles area By cobra_2_76@yahoo.com Re: New Articles area By tgrahl@iocenter.net Y2K bug? By tgrahl@iocenter.net Re: Y2K bug? By cobra_2_76@yahoo.com Re: Y2K bug? By hd7480@altavista.com ------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 12:44:03 -0800 From: "Timothy Grahl" Subject: New Articles area I have started a new area on the Mustang II Network which will contain various articles and papers on the Mustang II. The direct URL is http://www.mustangii.net/articles.htm and you can also access thru the navigation on the site. I have about 30 articles that will be posted in the next few weeks but am looking for articles that you may have that you would like to see on the site. If you have an article, email it to me or fax it at (313) 537-3536 Thanks, Tim ------------------------------------------------------------ Get your free email at the Mustang II Network http://www.mustangii.net ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 12:55:42 -0800 (PST) From: David Wilson Subject: Re: New Articles area Are you talking historical articles: magazines, books etc, or FAQ type information? --- Timothy Grahl wrote: > I have started a new area on the Mustang II Network > which will contain various articles and papers on > the Mustang II. The direct URL is > http://www.mustangii.net/articles.htm and you can > also access thru the navigation on the site. > > I have about 30 articles that will be posted in the > next few weeks but am looking for articles that you > may have that you would like to see on the site. > > If you have an article, email it to me or fax it at > (313) 537-3536 > > Thanks, > > Tim > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Get your free email at the Mustang II Network > http://www.mustangii.net > > > _____________________________________________________________ > Get your favorite topic delivered daily. > http://www.topica.com/t/11 > ===== Dave Wilson Cobra_2_76@yahoo.com My Cobra II, hosted by Dan Polk http://www.northpro.net/~polk/mii/ My home page is : http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Speedway/7500/index.html alt mail: Dwilson@ftmc.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 15:58:28 -0500 From: "Timothy M. Grahl" Subject: Re: New Articles area This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00A7_01BF5928.097E4FA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Magazine articles, press releases, white papers, etc. Book articles would work too. FAQ's would be appreciated but would go in a different area on the site. One of the goals of the Mustang II Network site is to centralize as much information on the IIs as possible. So in theory, any information that you would be willing to share can be put somewhere on the site. Tim -----Original Message----- From: David Wilson To: mustangii@topica.com Date: Friday, January 07, 2000 3:54 PM Subject: Re: New Articles area >Are you talking historical articles: magazines, books >etc, or FAQ type information? > >--- Timothy Grahl wrote: >> I have started a new area on the Mustang II Network >> which will contain various articles and papers on >> the Mustang II. The direct URL is >> http://www.mustangii.net/articles.htm and you can >> also access thru the navigation on the site. >> >> I have about 30 articles that will be posted in the >> next few weeks but am looking for articles that you >> may have that you would like to see on the site. >> >> If you have an article, email it to me or fax it at >> (313) 537-3536 >> >> Thanks, >> >> Tim >> >> >> >> >> >------------------------------------------------------------ >> Get your free email at the Mustang II Network >> http://www.mustangii.net >> >> >> >_____________________________________________________________ >> Get your favorite topic delivered daily. >> http://www.topica.com/t/11 >> > > >===== >Dave Wilson >Cobra_2_76@yahoo.com >My Cobra II, hosted by Dan Polk >http://www.northpro.net/~polk/mii/ >My home page is : >http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Speedway/7500/index.html >alt mail: Dwilson@ftmc.com >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. >http://im.yahoo.com > > >_____________________________________________________________ >Get your favorite topic delivered daily. >http://www.topica.com/t/11 > > ------=_NextPart_000_00A7_01BF5928.097E4FA0 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; name="Timothy M. Grahl.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Timothy M. Grahl.vcf" BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Grahl;Timothy;M. FN:Timothy M. Grahl ORG:Internet Operations Center;Web Development TITLE:Web Development and E-Commerce Specialist TEL;WORK;VOICE:248.204.8806 TEL;HOME;VOICE:313.533.1280 TEL;HOME;FAX:313.537.3536 ADR;WORK;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:;;200 Galleria = Officentre=3D0D=3D0ASuite 109;Southfield;Michigan;48240;USA LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:200 Galleria = Officentre=3D0D=3D0ASuite 109=3D0D=3D0ASouthfield, Michigan = 48240=3D0D=3D =3D0AUSA ADR;HOME:;;19964 Fox;Redford;MI;48240;USA LABEL;HOME;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:19964 Fox=3D0D=3D0ARedford, MI = 48240=3D0D=3D0AUSA URL:http://www.mustangii.net URL:http://www.iocenter.net EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:tgrahl@iocenter.net REV:20000107T205828Z END:VCARD ------=_NextPart_000_00A7_01BF5928.097E4FA0-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 16:48:28 -0500 From: "Timothy M. Grahl" Subject: Y2K bug? This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00D5_01BF592F.05C40290 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_00D6_01BF592F.05C40290" ------=_NextPart_001_00D6_01BF592F.05C40290 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok, all of you PC gurus, if you look at the Articles area of the = Mustang II Network and look at the "last updated date", does anyone = else's browser display the two digit year as 100? The script that is producing the output is as follows and the getYear = command is the one that is throwing the year 100. I can't seem to find = anything on Netscape's site referring to this problem. I am using = Communicator 4.7 and Netscape says that it is Y2K compliant. (Internet Explorer shows the year as just one 0) Any suggestions?? Timothy M. Grahl Web Development and E-Commerce Specialist Internet Operations Center 200 Galleria Officentre Suite 109 Southfield, Michigan 48034 tgrahl@iocenter.net 248.204.8806 ------=_NextPart_001_00D6_01BF592F.05C40290 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok, all of you PC gurus, if = you look at=20 the Articles area of the Mustang II Network and look at the "last = updated=20 date", does anyone else's browser display the two digit year as=20 100? The script that is producing the output is as = follows and the=20 getYear command is the one that is throwing the year 100. I can't = seem to=20 find anything on Netscape's site referring to this problem. I am = using=20 Communicator 4.7 and Netscape says that it is Y2K = compliant. (Internet Explorer shows the year as just one = 0) Any suggestions?? Timothy M. Grahl Web Development = and=20 E-Commerce Specialist Internet Operations Center 200 Galleria=20 Officentre Suite 109 Southfield, Michigan 48034 tgrahl@iocenter.net 248.204.88= 06 ------=_NextPart_001_00D6_01BF592F.05C40290-- ------=_NextPart_000_00D5_01BF592F.05C40290 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; name="Timothy M. Grahl.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Timothy M. Grahl.vcf" BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Grahl;Timothy;M. FN:Timothy M. Grahl ORG:Internet Operations Center;Web Development TITLE:Web Development and E-Commerce Specialist TEL;WORK;VOICE:248.204.8806 TEL;HOME;VOICE:313.533.1280 TEL;HOME;FAX:313.537.3536 ADR;WORK;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:;;200 Galleria = Officentre=3D0D=3D0ASuite 109;Southfield;Michigan;48240;USA LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:200 Galleria = Officentre=3D0D=3D0ASuite 109=3D0D=3D0ASouthfield, Michigan = 48240=3D0D=3D =3D0AUSA ADR;HOME:;;19964 Fox;Redford;MI;48240;USA LABEL;HOME;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:19964 Fox=3D0D=3D0ARedford, MI = 48240=3D0D=3D0AUSA URL:http://www.mustangii.net URL:http://www.iocenter.net EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:tgrahl@iocenter.net REV:20000107T214828Z END:VCARD ------=_NextPart_000_00D5_01BF592F.05C40290-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 14:35:44 -0800 (PST) From: David Wilson Subject: Re: Y2K bug? Unless your still messing with it mine shows "01/7/0" --- "Timothy M. Grahl" wrote: > Ok, all of you PC gurus, if you look at the > Articles area of the Mustang II Network and look at > the "last updated date", does anyone else's browser > display the two digit year as 100? > > The script that is producing the output is as > follows and the getYear command is the one that is > throwing the year 100. I can't seem to find > anything on Netscape's site referring to this > problem. I am using Communicator 4.7 and Netscape > says that it is Y2K compliant. > > (Internet Explorer shows the year as just one 0) > > Any suggestions?? > > > > > > > Timothy M. Grahl > Web Development and E-Commerce Specialist > Internet Operations Center > 200 Galleria Officentre > Suite 109 > Southfield, Michigan 48034 > tgrahl@iocenter.net > 248.204.8806 > > > BEGIN:VCARD > VERSION:2.1 > N:Grahl;Timothy;M. > FN:Timothy M. Grahl > ORG:Internet Operations Center;Web Development > TITLE:Web Development and E-Commerce Specialist > TEL;WORK;VOICE:248.204.8806 > TEL;HOME;VOICE:313.533.1280 > TEL;HOME;FAX:313.537.3536 > ADR;WORK;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:;;200 Galleria > Officentre=0D=0ASuite > 109;Southfield;Michigan;48240;USA > LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:200 Galleria > Officentre=0D=0ASuite 109=0D=0ASouthfield, Michigan > 48240=0D= > =0AUSA > ADR;HOME:;;19964 Fox;Redford;MI;48240;USA > LABEL;HOME;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:19964 > Fox=0D=0ARedford, MI 48240=0D=0AUSA > URL:http://www.mustangii.net > URL:http://www.iocenter.net > EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:tgrahl@iocenter.net > REV:20000107T214828Z > END:VCARD > ===== Dave Wilson Cobra_2_76@yahoo.com My Cobra II, hosted by Dan Polk http://www.northpro.net/~polk/mii/ My home page is : http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Speedway/7500/index.html alt mail: Dwilson@ftmc.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: 7 Jan 2000 16:12:16 -0800 From: Tim Chandler Subject: Re: Y2K bug? On Fri, 07 January 2000, David Wilson wrote: Shows 01/7/0 on mine also Later Tim > > Unless your still messing with it mine shows "01/7/0" > > --- "Timothy M. Grahl" wrote: > > Ok, all of you PC gurus, if you look at the > > Articles area of the Mustang II Network and look at > > the "last updated date", does anyone else's browser > > display the two digit year as 100? > > > > The script that is producing the output is as > > follows and the getYear command is the one that is > > throwing the year 100. I can't seem to find > > anything on Netscape's site referring to this > > problem. I am using Communicator 4.7 and Netscape > > says that it is Y2K compliant. > > > > (Internet Explorer shows the year as just one 0) > > > > Any suggestions?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Timothy M. Grahl > > Web Development and E-Commerce Specialist > > Internet Operations Center > > 200 Galleria Officentre > > Suite 109 > > Southfield, Michigan 48034 > > tgrahl@iocenter.net > > 248.204.8806 > > > > > BEGIN:VCARD > > VERSION:2.1 > > N:Grahl;Timothy;M. > > FN:Timothy M. Grahl > > ORG:Internet Operations Center;Web Development > > TITLE:Web Development and E-Commerce Specialist > > TEL;WORK;VOICE:248.204.8806 > > TEL;HOME;VOICE:313.533.1280 > > TEL;HOME;FAX:313.537.3536 > > ADR;WORK;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:;;200 Galleria > > Officentre=0D=0ASuite > > 109;Southfield;Michigan;48240;USA > > LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:200 Galleria > > Officentre=0D=0ASuite 109=0D=0ASouthfield, Michigan > > 48240=0D= > > =0AUSA > > ADR;HOME:;;19964 Fox;Redford;MI;48240;USA > > LABEL;HOME;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:19964 > > Fox=0D=0ARedford, MI 48240=0D=0AUSA > > URL:http://www.mustangii.net > > URL:http://www.iocenter.net > > EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:tgrahl@iocenter.net > > REV:20000107T214828Z > > END:VCARD > > > > > ===== > Dave Wilson > Cobra_2_76@yahoo.com > My Cobra II, hosted by Dan Polk > http://www.northpro.net/~polk/mii/ > My home page is : > http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Speedway/7500/index.html > alt mail: Dwilson@ftmc.com > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com > > > _____________________________________________________________ > Get your favorite topic delivered daily. > http://www.topica.com/t/11 ______________________________________________________________ Free Internet Access from AltaVista: Get it, share it & win! http://freeaccess.altavista.com/pika/www/initweb.jsp ------------------------------ End of mustangii@topica.com digest, issue 4 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To: mustangii@topica.com Subject: Digest for mustangii@topica.com, issue 5 Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 03:31:33 -0800 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Topica Digest -- Re: New Articles area By D8Mach@yahoo.com Re: Y2K bug? By D8Mach@yahoo.com Re: New Articles area By stangii@mustangii.net Y2k problem By stangii@mustangii.net ------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 13:55:32 -0500 From: "Mark." Subject: Re: New Articles area "Timothy M. Grahl" wrote: > Magazine articles, press releases, white papers, etc. Book articles would > work too. .... Not to poop on your idea, I treat copywrited materials I post differently than "public domain" materials. Copywrite holders have been known to get pissy when they find their material posted without their permission and possible compensation. When I put up a copy of a magazine or service manual material, I put it in a "temp" directory on the server and either mail a link to the person requesting the information, or post a link to a mail list. Either way the information is usually removed within 24 hours. Handling copywrited materials in this manner limits my exposure. It also keeps the material more in the manner of hand passing a book at a public meeting. Just something to think about. -- Mark. mailto:D8Mach@yahoo.com MustangII.Org Locale: http://www.bright.net/~rheschel/locator Never argue with a fool, a bystander can't tell you apart. ( Mark Twain ). When in doubt, Hit the throttle. It may not help, but it sure ends the suspense. ( Gaz?, rec.motorcycles ). __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 14:23:16 -0500 From: "Mark." Subject: Re: Y2K bug? "Timothy M. Grahl" wrote: Ok, all of you PC gurus, if you look at the Articles area of the Mustang II Network and look at the "last updated date", does anyone else's browser display the two digit year as 100? ...... Tim, you would probably get good information/feedback on this subject if it were posted to the .Org list. IMHO. Mark. -- Mark. mailto:D8Mach@yahoo.com MustangII.Org Locale: http://www.bright.net/~rheschel/locator Never argue with a fool, a bystander can't tell you apart. ( Mark Twain ). When in doubt, Hit the throttle. It may not help, but it sure ends the suspense. ( Gaz?, rec.motorcycles ). __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 19:57:36 -0800 From: "Timothy Grahl" Subject: Re: New Articles area >To: mustangii@topica.com I agree that if I posted the information for compensation or on a site that charges a fee, there would be a major problem with copyright laws. The "Fair Use" act allows for material to be used in a way that would be seen as research or for educational purposes. I wouldn't recommend posting entire books or magazines but an article from a magazine or book here and there is covered under the fair use act. It is also wise to give credit to the source much like you would a term paper or research paper. Most of the tech information on the site comes from three different sources who I contacted and spoke to about using the information. If anyone else has a website or is concerned about any information that they may post, take a look at the following site for more information on the "fair use" act. http://fairuse.stanford.edu/ Tim >From: "Mark." >Subject: Re: New Articles area >Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 10:55:36 -0800 >Reply-To: mustangii@topica.com > > > >"Timothy M. Grahl" wrote: > >> Magazine articles, press releases, white papers, etc. Book articles would >> work too. .... > >Not to poop on your idea, > >I treat copywrited materials I post differently than "public domain" materials. > >Copywrite holders have been known to get pissy when they find their material >posted without their permission and possible compensation. > >When I put up a copy of a magazine or service manual material, I put it in a >"temp" directory on the server and either mail a link to the person requesting >the information, or post a link to a mail list. Either way the information is >usually removed within 24 hours. > >Handling copywrited materials in this manner limits my exposure. It also keeps >the material more in the manner of hand passing a book at a public meeting. > >Just something to think about. > >-- > >Mark. >mailto:D8Mach@yahoo.com > >MustangII.Org Locale: >http://www.bright.net/~rheschel/locator > > >Never argue with a fool, a bystander can't tell you apart. ( Mark Twain ). >When in doubt, Hit the throttle. It may not help, but it sure ends the >suspense. ( Gaz?, rec.motorcycles ). > > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. >http://im.yahoo.com > > >_____________________________________________________________ >Keep up with breaking news! Join our Hot Topics list. >http://www.topica.com/lists/breakingnews/t/12 ------------------------------------------------------------ Get your free email at the Mustang II Network http://www.mustangii.net ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 20:39:06 -0800 From: "Timothy Grahl" Subject: Y2k problem I figure the problem out. There is a problem with the way that the javascript function performs the date routine. As far as I can tell, the only way to fix it is to use the getFullYear() routine instead of the getYear() routine. Thanks for the help. ------------------------------------------------------------ Get your free email at the Mustang II Network http://www.mustangii.net ------------------------------ End of mustangii@topica.com digest, issue 5 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To: mustangii@topica.com Subject: Digest for mustangii@topica.com, issue 6 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 03:31:42 -0800 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Topica Digest -- 4 cyl to V-8 conversion By kmwatts@n-connect.net ------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 01:12:46 -0600 From: "kmwatts" Subject: 4 cyl to V-8 conversion Okay all you MustangII guru's....HELP!...I'm in the middle of a 4 cyl to v-8 conversion and have the engine in the car...only to find that it appears to be to far forward...would anyone happen to have the frame rail mounting specs for the v-8 and if they differ in position from the 4 cyl? It appears that the they need to move rearward about 2 maybe even 3 inches. However I am not sure...some measurements from a common reference point would be greatly appreciated...Thanks in advance...Kenneth Watts P.S. Another suggested that the rack and pinion may be the culprit,however I don't believe there was any difference between the 4 cyl and v-8 versions in that respect..since the few parts books that I have don't have a separate listing for either...just show the one. ------------------------------ End of mustangii@topica.com digest, issue 6 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To: mustangii@topica.com Subject: Digest for mustangii@topica.com, issue 7 Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 03:32:18 -0800 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Topica Digest -- Re: 4 cyl to V-8 conversion By cobra_2_76@yahoo.com Re: 4 cyl to V-8 conversion By HD7480@altavista.com 4cyl to V-8 conversion By kmwatts@n-connect.net FW: 4cyl to V-8 conversion By a-dalang@microsoft.com Mustang II rack By kmwatts@n-connect.net OT: Topica list option By a351must@premier1.net Unsubscribe By ChlLock@aol.com Re: Unsubscribe By yeknomotiz@hotmail.com Re: 4cyl to V-8 conversion By DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Re: 4cyl to V-8 conversion By HD7480@altavista.com RE: 4cyl to V-8 conversion By a351must@premier1.net Re: 4cyl to V-8 conversion By DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Classified ads bug By stangii@mustangii.net Re: 4 cyl to V-8 conversion By Gr8pmkn1969@aol.com Re: Mustang II rack By Gr8pmkn1969@aol.com Re: 4cyl to V-8 conversion By Gr8pmkn1969@aol.com Re: Mustang II rack By Cor1580@aol.com Re: 4cyl to V-8 conversion By Gr8pmkn1969@aol.com Re: 4cyl to V-8 conversion By Cobraii976@aol.com Unsuscribe By ChlLock@aol.com ------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 04:35:14 -0800 (PST) From: David Wilson Subject: Re: 4 cyl to V-8 conversion You forgot to mention which year II you were converting. 74 model year conversions I hear are very nasty to accomplish. --- kmwatts wrote: > Okay all you MustangII guru's....HELP!...I'm in the > middle of a 4 cyl to v-8 > conversion and have the engine in the car...only to > find that it appears to > be to far forward...would anyone happen to have the > frame rail mounting > specs for the v-8 and if they differ in position > from the 4 cyl? It appears > that the they need to move rearward about 2 maybe > even 3 inches. However I > am not sure...some measurements from a common > reference point would be > greatly appreciated...Thanks in advance...Kenneth > Watts > > P.S. Another suggested that the rack and pinion may > be the culprit,however I > don't believe there was any difference between the 4 > cyl and v-8 versions in > that respect..since the few parts books that I have > don't have a separate > listing for either...just show the one. > > > > > _____________________________________________________________ > Keep up with breaking news! Join our Hot Topics > list. > http://www.topica.com/lists/breakingnews/t/12 > ===== Dave Wilson Cobra_2_76@yahoo.com My Cobra II, hosted by Dan Polk http://www.northpro.net/~polk/mii/ My home page is : http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Speedway/7500/index.html alt mail: Dwilson@ftmc.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: 10 Jan 2000 05:38:19 -0800 From: Tim Chandler Subject: Re: 4 cyl to V-8 conversion On Mon, 10 January 2000, David Wilson wrote: Kenneth are you useing a II 302 oil pan? They are different from other V-8 oilpans.Also the motormount perches are different.If you need parts try Steve at rebelsales@aol.com Good Luck > > You forgot to mention which year II you were > converting. 74 model year conversions I hear are very > nasty to accomplish. > > --- kmwatts wrote: > > Okay all you MustangII guru's....HELP!...I'm in the > > middle of a 4 cyl to v-8 > > conversion and have the engine in the car...only to > > find that it appears to > > be to far forward...would anyone happen to have the > > frame rail mounting > > specs for the v-8 and if they differ in position > > from the 4 cyl? It appears > > that the they need to move rearward about 2 maybe > > even 3 inches. However I > > am not sure...some measurements from a common > > reference point would be > > greatly appreciated...Thanks in advance...Kenneth > > Watts > > > > P.S. Another suggested that the rack and pinion may > > be the culprit,however I > > don't believe there was any difference between the 4 > > cyl and v-8 versions in > > that respect..since the few parts books that I have > > don't have a separate > > listing for either...just show the one. > > > > > > > > > > > _____________________________________________________________ > > Keep up with breaking news! Join our Hot Topics > > list. > > http://www.topica.com/lists/breakingnews/t/12 > > > > > ===== > Dave Wilson > Cobra_2_76@yahoo.com > My Cobra II, hosted by Dan Polk > http://www.northpro.net/~polk/mii/ > My home page is : > http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Speedway/7500/index.html > alt mail: Dwilson@ftmc.com > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com > > > _____________________________________________________________ > Keep up with breaking news! Join our Hot Topics list. > http://www.topica.com/lists/breakingnews/t/12 ______________________________________________________________ Free Internet Access from AltaVista: Get it, share it & win! http://freeaccess.altavista.com/pika/www/initweb.jsp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 10:54:26 -0600 From: "kmwatts" Subject: 4cyl to V-8 conversion Whoops as pointed out I did forget to mention what year I was working on. I have a 1977. Also from the few pictures I have seen I have noticed that the rack and pinion is located on the front of the cross member on the v8's..however the one I have is mounted behind...Could anyone verify this for me?..If this is the case..out goes the rack and in goes the manual rack I wanted anyway...in front...hehehe...thanks in advance. Kenneth Watts ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 09:23:30 -0800 From: "Darryl Lang (Entex)" Subject: FW: 4cyl to V-8 conversion The rack on all IIs is located in front of the crossmember. Someone would have to modify a lot to get it mounted and working on the rear of the crossmember. There should be a second crossmember behind the main one that would be in the way of mounting the rack behind it. Darryl > > -----Original Message----- > > From: kmwatts [mailto:kmwatts@n-connect.net] > > Sent: Monday, January 10, 2000 8:48 AM > > To: mustangii@topica.com > > Subject: 4cyl to V-8 conversion > > > > > > Whoops as pointed out I did forget to mention what year I was > > working on. I > > have a 1977. Also from the few pictures I have seen I have > > noticed that the > > rack and pinion is located on the front of the cross member on the > > v8's..however the one I have is mounted behind...Could anyone > > verify this > > for me?..If this is the case..out goes the rack and in goes > > the manual rack > > I wanted anyway...in front...hehehe...thanks in advance. > > Kenneth Watts > > > > > > > > > > > > _____________________________________________________________ > > Keep up with breaking news! Join our Hot Topics list. > > http://www.topica.com/lists/breakingnews/t/12 > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 13:04:59 -0600 From: "kmwatts" Subject: Mustang II rack Man it must have really been a long night...yes my rack is located forward of the crossmember..Now I have found that the frame rail enginge mounting units are different on the 4 cyl vs the V8's. Does anyone have a parts car around they would be willing to sell them out of?...Thanks in advance...Kenneth Watts ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 11:25:43 -0800 From: "Darryl Lang (Entex)" Subject: OT: Topica list option Just had to try something out...was subscribed twice so I could post from work... Turns out Topica lets you assign more than one e-mail address to your account so I only have to be subscribed once now... Cool... Darryl ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 15:45:47 EST From: ChlLock@aol.com Subject: Unsubscribe Unsubscribe ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 21:50:10 GMT From: "Joseph Zito" Subject: Re: Unsubscribe >From: ChlLock@aol.com >Reply-To: mustangii@topica.com >To: mustangii@topica.com >Subject: Unsubscribe >Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 12:46:19 -0800 > >Unsubscribe > > >_____________________________________________________________ >Keep up with breaking news! Join our Hot Topics list. >http://www.topica.com/lists/breakingnews/t/12 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 19:00:17 EST From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Subject: Re: 4cyl to V-8 conversion Do u anticipate any suspension problems with ur conversion... i have a "y" in my vin number so that means (by a book i read on understanding the vin #'s) it s a 3.2 origianlly; but now i have a v8 (the guy i bought it from swears it came with the v8; yeah right! i dislike swearers...hehe).... anyway... i looked at my rack and its....behind the oil pan's 'drop' portion so its unnecasary to get the one for the front... two other thoughts... the oil pan being unique to the stang II makes sense.... and my suspension is like jumpin up and down on a mattress when u was a kid; lots of bounce.... anyone know what springs i should get an matching shocks and from whom?.... tanks.... i like this stang II talk.... bye folks... ------------------------------ Date: 10 Jan 2000 16:07:46 -0800 From: Tim Chandler Subject: Re: 4cyl to V-8 conversion On Mon, 10 January 2000, DoUFeelThis2@aol.com wrote: > > Do u anticipate any suspension problems with ur conversion... i have a "y" in > my vin number so that means (by a book i read on understanding the vin #'s) it > s a 3.2 origianlly; but now i have a v8 (the guy i bought it from swears it > came with the v8; yeah right! i dislike swearers...hehe).... anyway... i > looked at my rack and its....behind the oil pan's 'drop' portion so its > unnecasary to get the one for the front... two other thoughts... the oil pan > being unique to the stang II makes sense.... and my suspension is like jumpin > up and down on a mattress when u was a kid; lots of bounce.... anyone know > what springs i should get an matching shocks and from whom?.... tanks.... i > like this stang II talk.... bye folks... > > > You probibly need V-8 springs and it sounds as if your shocks are shot Try Steve at rebelsales@aol.com He is a II only salvage yard HTH Tim _____________________________________________________________ > Keep up with breaking news! Join our Hot Topics list. > http://www.topica.com/lists/breakingnews/t/12 ______________________________________________________________ Free Internet Access from AltaVista: Get it, share it & win! http://freeaccess.altavista.com/pika/www/initweb.jsp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 16:21:38 -0800 From: "Darryl Lang (Entex)" Subject: RE: 4cyl to V-8 conversion For springs... Any Mustang II V8 spring, preferably from one with Competition Suspension. springs from a FOX Mustang will work but need shortened to the correct length. Aftermarket springs from http://www.racerwalsh.com will also work. If I remember right, the 4cyl spring rate isn't very much different than the V8 spring. You may need to replace you shocks...Monroe makes a real nice set of gas charged shocks for the II, way better than the Gabriels available now. Darryl -----Original Message----- Do u anticipate any suspension problems with ur conversion... i have a "y" in my vin number so that means (by a book i read on understanding the vin #'s) it s a 3.2 origianlly; but now i have a v8 (the guy i bought it from swears it came with the v8; yeah right! i dislike swearers...hehe).... anyway... i looked at my rack and its....behind the oil pan's 'drop' portion so its unnecasary to get the one for the front... two other thoughts... the oil pan being unique to the stang II makes sense.... and my suspension is like jumpin up and down on a mattress when u was a kid; lots of bounce.... anyone know what springs i should get an matching shocks and from whom?.... tanks.... i like this stang II talk.... bye folks... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 20:34:25 EST From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Subject: Re: 4cyl to V-8 conversion In a message dated 1/10/00 6:22:37 PM Central Standard Time, a351must@premier1.net writes: << http://www.racerwalsh.com >> thanks a ton.... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 20:57:33 -0800 From: "Timothy Grahl" Subject: Classified ads bug There was a small Y2K bug with the classified ads which prevented any ads from being placed. That bug has been exterminated and the ads should be working fine. Please let me know if you experience any more problems with anything on the site. Thanks, Tim stangii@mustangii.net ------------------------------------------------------------ Get your free email at the Mustang II Network http://www.mustangii.net ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 23:57:34 EST From: Gr8pmkn1969@aol.com Subject: Re: 4 cyl to V-8 conversion rack and pinion units were the same regardless of engine. what I found doing a v6 to v8 swap was that i needed to swap the motor mounts side to side. might not work for you but I thought Id let you know Eugene, 76 Stallion, 78 King Cobra ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 00:00:35 EST From: Gr8pmkn1969@aol.com Subject: Re: Mustang II rack I know of a II sitting in a junkyard that might have the v8 mounts still on it. If you want, let me know and I'll check on it. Eugene ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 00:03:20 EST From: Gr8pmkn1969@aol.com Subject: Re: 4cyl to V-8 conversion I believe that a "Y" designates a 4 cylinder. My old V-6 car eas a Z-code and my V-8 King Cobra is an F-code. Eugene ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 00:04:29 EST From: COR1580@aol.com Subject: Re: Mustang II rack Where is the II in the junkyard ?? I could use the bumper covers for it. 78 II or if anyone could heip I live in Indiana thanks in advance ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 00:06:02 EST From: Gr8pmkn1969@aol.com Subject: Re: 4cyl to V-8 conversion Dont forget that the V-8 weighs over double what a 4 banger weighs. Springs ARE very different. I dont know about using fox springs, the local Les Schwab put new V-8 springs in my car for about $200. Eugene ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 00:13:55 EST From: COBRAII976@aol.com Subject: Re: 4cyl to V-8 conversion In a message dated 1/11/00 12:06:51 AM Eastern Standard Time, Gr8pmkn1969@aol.com writes: > Dont forget that the V-8 weighs over double what a 4 banger weighs. Springs > ARE very different. I dont know about using fox springs, the local Les > Schwab > put new V-8 springs in my car for about $200. > > Eugene Well if you go look at the weight table on the 302 and the 2.3 I think your going to get a big suprise the 302 fully dressed weighs 575 pound the 2.3 and thats a turbo so it is a little lighter then our 2.3 is 470 pounds thats 105 pound difference not even close to double. here is a link check it out might as well back up the facts. http://www.sv3.com/jimh/Prycli st.doc Dave ADE MUSTANG Full service New Used NOS Mustang II parts and Restorations ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 04:57:09 EST From: ChlLock@aol.com Subject: Unsuscribe Unsubscribe ------------------------------ End of mustangii@topica.com digest, issue 7 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To: mustangii@topica.com Subject: Digest for mustangii@topica.com, issue 8 Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 09:54:01 -0800 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Topica Digest -- Re: 4cyl to V-8 conversion By DoUFeelThis2@aol.com ------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 12:53:14 EST From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Subject: Re: 4cyl to V-8 conversion Eugene... ur right about the Y; i checked with the texas dept. of motor vehicles; strange thing; mine also has an 'r' as the first lettered digit and they say no such vin is possible; i told them to look at mine casue it sure has an 'r'; they shook their heads... i looked ur 'r'... it means the unit was built in san jose cali. and i wonder now if my 'y' designating my car as a 2.3 motor could have been a mismark on a monday morning by a angry stamp cluck (er, clerk).. and maybe my former car owner was not a former car owner liar and my '76 stang II is a true factory v8. ------------------------------ End of mustangii@topica.com digest, issue 8 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To: mustangii@topica.com Subject: Digest for mustangii@topica.com, issue 9 Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 18:46:12 -0800 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Topica Digest -- Re: Mustang II rack By DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Re: 4cyl to V-8 conversion By DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Re: 4cyl to V-8 conversion By Cobraii976@aol.com Re: Mustang II rack By stangii@mustangii.net RE: Re: Mustang II rack By moone100@chapman.edu Re: Re: Mustang II rack By tgrahl@iocenter.net Re: Mustang II rack By DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Re: Mustang II rack By DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Re: Mustang II rack By tgrahl@iocenter.net Re: Mustang II rack By tgrahl@iocenter.net RE: Mustang II rack By a351must@premier1.net Re: Mustang II rack By DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Re: Mustang II rack By tgrahl@iocenter.net RE: Ghia proto By moone100@chapman.edu RE: Ghia hatchback By moone100@chapman.edu RE: one more thought on Ghia Hatchback By moone100@chapman.edu Re: Mustang II rack By rebelmust@aol.com Re: Mustang II rack By rebelmust@aol.com Re: Mustang II rack By rebelmust@aol.com Re: one more thought on Ghia Hatchback By rebelmust@aol.com Re: Mustang II Ghia By guitwild@erols.com RE: Mustang II Ghia By a351must@premier1.net Re: Mustang II Ghia By drnix@wcc.net Re: one more thought on Ghia Hatchback By KCobraII@uswest.net Re: 4cyl to V-8 conversion By RCStenic@prodigy.net Re: one more thought on Ghia Hatchback By D8Mach@yahoo.com RE: one more thought on Ghia Hatchback By tims302@hotmail.com Re: Mustang II rack By DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Re: Ghia hatchback By DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Re: Mustang II rack By Cobraii976@aol.com ------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 12:55:59 EST From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Subject: Re: Mustang II rack speaking of parts.... i need the passenger side chrome strip leading from the roof b post down to the door top.... i have a '76 stang II Ghia Fast Back... and it is getting more looks from old guys, young dudes, than any car i've owned... darn! now if i can get the young ladies to look.... hehe ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 12:58:03 EST From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Subject: Re: 4cyl to V-8 conversion In a message dated 1/10/00 11:06:44 PM Central Standard Time, Gr8pmkn1969@aol.com writes: << Les Schwab >> is that a dealer net work? i'm in the ft. worth/arlington texas area.... wonder who would have v8 capable springs? my car bounces like it thinks its at a Low Rider convention and all the Hispanics around here look like they wanna have my car for a show... haha ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 12:59:04 EST From: COBRAII976@aol.com Subject: Re: 4cyl to V-8 conversion Ok lets fix this now before it goes any farther Vin brakes down like this 6F02F 6= year in this case 76 F= where built F= Dearborn R= San Jose 02 Body style ghia coupe mach i 3 door fast back etc all have the code F engine F=302 Z= 2.8 V6 Y=2.3 4 cyl Go to MustangII.Net and under Tech Section find the online Vin Decoder that will answer the questions. Dave ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 10:41:27 -0800 From: "Timothy Grahl" Subject: Re: Mustang II rack A Ghia Fast Back, this must be a modified car. Ghia's were all notchbacks. >To: mustangii@topica.com >From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com >Subject: Re: Mustang II rack >Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 09:56:30 -0800 >Reply-To: mustangii@topica.com > >speaking of parts.... i need the passenger side chrome strip leading from the >roof b post down to the door top.... i have a '76 stang II Ghia Fast Back... >and it is getting more looks from old guys, young dudes, than any car i've >owned... darn! now if i can get the young ladies to look.... hehe > > >_____________________________________________________________ >Keep up with breaking news! Join our Hot Topics list. >http://www.topica.com/lists/breakingnews/t/12 ------------------------------------------------------------ Get your free email at the Mustang II Network http://www.mustangii.net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:09:39 -0800 (PST) From: moone100@chapman.edu Subject: RE: Re: Mustang II rack Unless he has the original protype Ford made, complete with vinyl roof. -Paul >A Ghia Fast Back, this must be a modified car. Ghia's were all notchbacks. > >>To: mustangii@topica.com >>From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com >>Subject: Re: Mustang II rack >>Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 09:56:30 -0800 >>Reply-To: mustangii@topica.com >> >>speaking of parts.... i need the passenger side chrome strip leading from the >>roof b post down to the door top.... i have a '76 stang II Ghia Fast Back... >>and it is getting more looks from old guys, young dudes, than any car i've >>owned... darn! now if i can get the young ladies to look.... hehe >> >> >>_____________________________________________________________ >>Keep up with breaking news! Join our Hot Topics list. >>http://www.topica.com/lists/breakingnews/t/12 > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------ >Get your free email at the Mustang II Network >http://www.mustangii.net > > >_____________________________________________________________ >Keep up with breaking news! Join our Hot Topics list. >http://www.topica.com/lists/breakingnews/t/12 > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 14:12:42 -0500 From: "Timothy M. Grahl" Subject: Re: Re: Mustang II rack This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0102_01BF5C3D.ECF171F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am familiar with the convertible prototypes but haven't heard about the Ghia fastback proto. How much information do you have on this. Tim -----Original Message----- From: moone100@chapman.edu To: mustangii@topica.com Date: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 2:09 PM Subject: RE: Re: Mustang II rack >Unless he has the original protype Ford made, complete with vinyl >roof. >-Paul > > >>A Ghia Fast Back, this must be a modified car. Ghia's were all notchbacks. >> >>>To: mustangii@topica.com >>>From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com >>>Subject: Re: Mustang II rack >>>Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 09:56:30 -0800 >>>Reply-To: mustangii@topica.com >>> >>>speaking of parts.... i need the passenger side chrome strip leading from the >>>roof b post down to the door top.... i have a '76 stang II Ghia Fast Back... >>>and it is getting more looks from old guys, young dudes, than any car i've >>>owned... darn! now if i can get the young ladies to look.... hehe >>> >>> >>>_____________________________________________________________ >>>Keep up with breaking news! Join our Hot Topics list. >>>http://www.topica.com/lists/breakingnews/t/12 >> >> >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------------ >>Get your free email at the Mustang II Network >>http://www.mustangii.net >> >> >>_____________________________________________________________ >>Keep up with breaking news! Join our Hot Topics list. >>http://www.topica.com/lists/breakingnews/t/12 >> >> > > >_____________________________________________________________ >Keep up with breaking news! Join our Hot Topics list. >http://www.topica.com/lists/breakingnews/t/12 > > ------=_NextPart_000_0102_01BF5C3D.ECF171F0 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; name="Timothy M. Grahl.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Timothy M. Grahl.vcf" BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Grahl;Timothy;M. FN:Timothy M. Grahl ORG:Internet Operations Center;Web Development TITLE:Web Development and E-Commerce Specialist TEL;WORK;VOICE:248.204.8806 TEL;HOME;VOICE:313.533.1280 TEL;HOME;FAX:313.537.3536 ADR;WORK;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:;;200 Galleria = Officentre=3D0D=3D0ASuite 109;Southfield;Michigan;48240;USA LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:200 Galleria = Officentre=3D0D=3D0ASuite 109=3D0D=3D0ASouthfield, Michigan = 48240=3D0D=3D =3D0AUSA ADR;HOME:;;19964 Fox;Redford;MI;48240;USA LABEL;HOME;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:19964 Fox=3D0D=3D0ARedford, MI = 48240=3D0D=3D0AUSA URL:http://www.mustangii.net URL:http://www.iocenter.net EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:tgrahl@iocenter.net REV:20000111T191242Z END:VCARD ------=_NextPart_000_0102_01BF5C3D.ECF171F0-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 14:29:16 EST From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Subject: Re: Mustang II rack my mustang II is a '76 fast back ghia... it shows ghia all over and perhaps ur mistaken here... now;a fast back (for my interpretation) is a 'lift back' or 'hatchback' wherein when you open the rear.. u open the rear window and all... and according to three books i've seen (free at the library hehe) .... a picture is shown in each of the fastback ghia... but no notch back ghias... have i seen; though i am new to the stang II ... yet .... i love this car more than any other i've owned... its really pretty; it handles superbly; it moves with any level of agression i need.... (like if someone want allow me onto the freeway i can either brake or scat.... and i scat... and not once has someone prevented my entry well out in front of them ... oh; i do not do road rage.... too protective of my baby, the ghia).... anyone else have a thought on this.. do i need to remove the Ghia labels and factory embalms..all over the car?... thangs and bye ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 14:34:23 EST From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Subject: Re: Mustang II rack mine is original ghia... it goes like this in its shape on the rear: \ \ `\ and not like this: ------| | | ______ | sorry for the poor art.... anyway... the top is my 1976 mustang II Ghia... and the bottom is a notch back which i do not have. thanks .... if mine is a false Ghia... then what is it...? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 14:38:04 -0500 From: "Timothy M. Grahl" Subject: Re: Mustang II rack This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_011E_01BF5C41.77AED780 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ghia's were manufactured as notchback or coupes. The coupes are the IIs with a trunk, not the hatchback with opening back window. A Ghia also has some sort of a Vinyl top and smaller side windows (some call them "opera" windows). Only 4 true body styles were manufactured which included 2 notchbacks, the Ghia and the coupe (hardtop) and 2 fastbacks, the 2+2 and the Mach I. The Cobra IIs and King Cobras were based on the latter. Just as a matter of information, there were no cobra IIs or Kings in the notchback or coupe format either. What is the first 5 digits of your VIN and do you have the doortag intact, (driver's side door). -----Original Message----- From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com To: mustangii@topica.com Date: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 2:28 PM Subject: Re: Mustang II rack my mustang II is a '76 fast back ghia... it shows ghia all over and perhaps ur mistaken here... now;a fast back (for my interpretation) is a 'lift back' or 'hatchback' wherein when you open the rear.. u open the rear window and all... and according to three books i've seen (free at the library hehe) .... a picture is shown in each of the fastback ghia... but no notch back ghias... have i seen; though i am new to the stang II ... yet .... i love this car more than any other i've owned... its really pretty; it handles superbly; it moves with any level of agression i need.... (like if someone want allow me onto the freeway i can either brake or scat.... and i scat... and not once has someone prevented my entry well out in front of them ... oh; i do not do road rage.... too protective of my baby, the ghia).... anyone else have a thought on this.. do i need to remove the Ghia labels and factory embalms..all over the car?... thangs and bye _____________________________________________________________ Keep up with breaking news! Join our Hot Topics list. http://www.topica.com/lists/breakingnews/t/12 ------=_NextPart_000_011E_01BF5C41.77AED780 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; name="Timothy M. Grahl.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Timothy M. Grahl.vcf" BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Grahl;Timothy;M. FN:Timothy M. Grahl ORG:Internet Operations Center;Web Development TITLE:Web Development and E-Commerce Specialist TEL;WORK;VOICE:248.204.8806 TEL;HOME;VOICE:313.533.1280 TEL;HOME;FAX:313.537.3536 ADR;WORK;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:;;200 Galleria = Officentre=3D0D=3D0ASuite 109;Southfield;Michigan;48240;USA LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:200 Galleria = Officentre=3D0D=3D0ASuite 109=3D0D=3D0ASouthfield, Michigan = 48240=3D0D=3D =3D0AUSA ADR;HOME:;;19964 Fox;Redford;MI;48240;USA LABEL;HOME;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:19964 Fox=3D0D=3D0ARedford, MI = 48240=3D0D=3D0AUSA URL:http://www.mustangii.net URL:http://www.iocenter.net EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:tgrahl@iocenter.net REV:20000111T193803Z END:VCARD ------=_NextPart_000_011E_01BF5C41.77AED780-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 14:39:38 -0500 From: "Timothy M. Grahl" Subject: Re: Mustang II rack This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0129_01BF5C41.B02F9040 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit more than likely a 2+2 or Mach I with Ghia symbols added after the fact. The VIN and doortag should tell the story. -----Original Message----- From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com To: mustangii@topica.com Date: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 2:33 PM Subject: Re: Mustang II rack mine is original ghia... it goes like this in its shape on the rear: \ \ `\ and not like this: ------| | | ______ | sorry for the poor art.... anyway... the top is my 1976 mustang II Ghia... and the bottom is a notch back which i do not have. thanks .... if mine is a false Ghia... then what is it...? _____________________________________________________________ Keep up with breaking news! 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Grahl ORG:Internet Operations Center;Web Development TITLE:Web Development and E-Commerce Specialist TEL;WORK;VOICE:248.204.8806 TEL;HOME;VOICE:313.533.1280 TEL;HOME;FAX:313.537.3536 ADR;WORK;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:;;200 Galleria = Officentre=3D0D=3D0ASuite 109;Southfield;Michigan;48240;USA LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:200 Galleria = Officentre=3D0D=3D0ASuite 109=3D0D=3D0ASouthfield, Michigan = 48240=3D0D=3D =3D0AUSA ADR;HOME:;;19964 Fox;Redford;MI;48240;USA LABEL;HOME;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:19964 Fox=3D0D=3D0ARedford, MI = 48240=3D0D=3D0AUSA URL:http://www.mustangii.net URL:http://www.iocenter.net EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:tgrahl@iocenter.net REV:20000111T193938Z END:VCARD ------=_NextPart_000_0129_01BF5C41.B02F9040-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:41:50 -0800 From: "Darryl Lang (Entex)" Subject: RE: Mustang II rack I sure wouldn't remove the emblems, but a Fastback Ghia is a new one on me too... I've had 2 Ghias, and both were coupes. I have a Coupe that says Ghia all over it, but that's because someone swapped the interior from a Ghia into it. The cars are over 20 years old and many changes may have been made by previous owners. We'd be real real real interested if you vin has "05" as the 3rd and 4th place in it. If you want to see actual pics... for Ghias: http://www.mustangii.org/gallery/coupe.shtml Fastbacks: http://www.mustangii.org/gallery/hatch.shtml Darryl -----Original Message----- my mustang II is a '76 fast back ghia... it shows ghia all over and perhaps ur mistaken here... now;a fast back (for my interpretation) is a 'lift back' or 'hatchback' wherein when you open the rear.. u open the rear window and all... and according to three books i've seen (free at the library hehe) .... a picture is shown in each of the fastback ghia... but no notch back ghias... have i seen; though i am new to the stang II ... yet .... i love this car more than any other i've owned... its really pretty; it handles superbly; it moves with any level of agression i need.... (like if someone want allow me onto the freeway i can either brake or scat.... and i scat... and not once has someone prevented my entry well out in front of them ... oh; i do not do road rage.... too protective of my baby, the ghia).... anyone else have a thought on this.. do i need to remove the Ghia labels and factory embalms..all over the car?... thangs and bye _____________________________________________________________ Keep up with breaking news! Join our Hot Topics list. http://www.topica.com/lists/breakingnews/t/12 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 14:42:48 EST From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Subject: Re: Mustang II rack i don't have much information, for i wasn't aware it was a protype... the owner.. who sold it to me is a rare car collector... that's all they do.... usually gull wing types or unusual jags (like an xke '57)... etc.... and he had this little fast back ghia sitting over in a corner and i asked if the v8 was origianlly in the car.. and he said yes, but it had had a miss and they had overhauled the motor, but it still was missing... as before... so... i asked what he wanted; i traded him even for my totally disassymbled '73 cj5 jeep and i drove away... maybe our confustion is over terms... a fast back for me is a slopping back that when the rear area is opened, the glass and all raises... the rear seat lowers as u wish.. and it has a roll over cover that retracts or u pull it to the rear and it hides ur contents.... that is a fast back... a notch back looks similar to a standard car in that it has a true trunk without access to the forward area.... it is heaver than the fastback and the fast back is i think more popular.... i hope some one knows more 'formal' discriptions on this... anyway... what i own is a fastback.. '76 mustang GHIA.... with a v8 motor and it is the finest handling car for the money one the american road... far better than the other 70's cars in its class.... yet, not the recognition it deserves... until my baby hit the rubber to the road...... thanks and see ya ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 14:44:14 -0500 From: "Timothy M. Grahl" Subject: Re: Mustang II rack This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0141_01BF5C42.548E44B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There is also the possibility that the dash has been replaced as well as the VIN. I recently had a 78 Rallye with a V-8 in which the VIN had been changed to a 74 coupe. The VIN numbers on the fender wells did not match the one on the dash. -----Original Message----- From: Darryl Lang (Entex) To: 'mustangii@topica.com' Date: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 2:41 PM Subject: RE: Mustang II rack >I sure wouldn't remove the emblems, but a Fastback Ghia is a new one on me >too... > >I've had 2 Ghias, and both were coupes. > >I have a Coupe that says Ghia all over it, but that's because someone >swapped the interior from a Ghia into it. The cars are over 20 years old >and many changes may have been made by previous owners. > >We'd be real real real interested if you vin has "05" as the 3rd and 4th >place in it. > >If you want to see actual pics... > >for Ghias: >http://www.mustangii.org/gallery/coupe.shtml > >Fastbacks: >http://www.mustangii.org/gallery/hatch.shtml > >Darryl > >-----Original Message----- >my mustang II is a '76 fast back ghia... it shows ghia all over and perhaps >ur mistaken here... now;a fast back (for my interpretation) is a 'lift back' > >or 'hatchback' wherein when you open the rear.. u open the rear window and >all... and according to three books i've seen (free at the library hehe) >.... >a picture is shown in each of the fastback ghia... but no notch back >ghias... have i seen; though i am new to the stang II ... yet .... i love >this car more than any other i've owned... its really pretty; it handles >superbly; it moves with any level of agression i need.... (like if someone >want allow me onto the freeway i can either brake or scat.... and i scat... >and not once has someone prevented my entry well out in front of them ... >oh; >i do not do road rage.... too protective of my baby, the ghia).... anyone >else have a thought on this.. do i need to remove the Ghia labels and >factory >embalms..all over the car?... thangs and bye > > >_____________________________________________________________ >Keep up with breaking news! Join our Hot Topics list. >http://www.topica.com/lists/breakingnews/t/12 > > >_____________________________________________________________ >Keep up with breaking news! Join our Hot Topics list. >http://www.topica.com/lists/breakingnews/t/12 > ------=_NextPart_000_0141_01BF5C42.548E44B0 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; name="Timothy M. Grahl.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Timothy M. Grahl.vcf" BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Grahl;Timothy;M. FN:Timothy M. Grahl ORG:Internet Operations Center;Web Development TITLE:Web Development and E-Commerce Specialist TEL;WORK;VOICE:248.204.8806 TEL;HOME;VOICE:313.533.1280 TEL;HOME;FAX:313.537.3536 ADR;WORK;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:;;200 Galleria = Officentre=3D0D=3D0ASuite 109;Southfield;Michigan;48240;USA LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:200 Galleria = Officentre=3D0D=3D0ASuite 109=3D0D=3D0ASouthfield, Michigan = 48240=3D0D=3D =3D0AUSA ADR;HOME:;;19964 Fox;Redford;MI;48240;USA LABEL;HOME;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:19964 Fox=3D0D=3D0ARedford, MI = 48240=3D0D=3D0AUSA URL:http://www.mustangii.net URL:http://www.iocenter.net EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:tgrahl@iocenter.net REV:20000111T194414Z END:VCARD ------=_NextPart_000_0141_01BF5C42.548E44B0-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 12:24:23 -0800 (PST) From: moone100@chapman.edu Subject: RE: Ghia proto Tim- It's in one or two of the books I have, with a picture and a little info. I'll see what more I can find and let you know. Paul >I am familiar with the convertible prototypes but haven't heard about the >Ghia fastback proto. How much information do you have on this. > >Tim > >-----Original Message----- >From: moone100@chapman.edu >To: mustangii@topica.com >Date: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 2:09 PM >Subject: RE: Re: Mustang II rack > > >>Unless he has the original protype Ford made, complete with vinyl >>roof. >>-Paul >> >> >>>A Ghia Fast Back, this must be a modified car. Ghia's were all >notchbacks. >>> >>>>To: mustangii@topica.com >>>>From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com >>>>Subject: Re: Mustang II rack >>>>Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 09:56:30 -0800 >>>>Reply-To: mustangii@topica.com >>>> >>>>speaking of parts.... i need the passenger side chrome strip leading from >the >>>>roof b post down to the door top.... i have a '76 stang II Ghia Fast >Back... >>>>and it is getting more looks from old guys, young dudes, than any car >i've >>>>owned... darn! now if i can get the young ladies to look.... hehe >>>> >>>> >>>>_____________________________________________________________ >>>>Keep up with breaking news! Join our Hot Topics list. >>>>http://www.topica.com/lists/breakingnews/t/12 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>------------------------------------------------------------ >>>Get your free email at the Mustang II Network >>>http://www.mustangii.net >>> >>> >>>_____________________________________________________________ >>>Keep up with breaking news! Join our Hot Topics list. >>>http://www.topica.com/lists/breakingnews/t/12 >>> >>> >> >> >>_____________________________________________________________ >>Keep up with breaking news! Join our Hot Topics list. >>http://www.topica.com/lists/breakingnews/t/12 >> >> > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 12:50:37 -0800 (PST) From: moone100@chapman.edu Subject: RE: Ghia hatchback I have read everyone's comments and to add to the confusion, let me say this. It is possible that a dealer could have tranformed a hatchback. While this may seem far-fetched, (to add badges and change the interior)some dealers may have gone to such extremes. Here in So. Cal. Galpin Ford ( one of the country's largest) took car's and "Galpinized" them in the 70's. This consisted of everything from wild paint jobs to creating their own packages. Just food for thought. Paul >i don't have much information, for i wasn't aware it was a protype... the >owner.. who sold it to me is a rare car collector... that's all they do.... >usually gull wing types or unusual jags (like an xke '57)... etc.... and he >had this little fast back ghia sitting over in a corner and i asked if the v8 >was origianlly in the car.. and he said yes, but it had had a miss and they >had overhauled the motor, but it still was missing... as before... so... i >asked what he wanted; i traded him even for my totally disassymbled '73 cj5 >jeep and i drove away... maybe our confustion is over terms... a fast back >for me is a slopping back that when the rear area is opened, the glass and >all raises... the rear seat lowers as u wish.. and it has a roll over cover >that retracts or u pull it to the rear and it hides ur contents.... that is a >fast back... a notch back looks similar to a standard car in that it has a >true trunk without access to the forward area.... it is heaver than the >fastback and the fast back is i think more popular.... i hope some one >knows more 'formal' discriptions on this... anyway... what i own is a >fastback.. '76 mustang GHIA.... with a v8 motor and it is the finest handling >car for the money one the american road... far better than the other 70's >cars in its class.... yet, not the recognition it deserves... until my baby >hit the rubber to the road...... thanks and see ya > > >_____________________________________________________________ >Keep up with breaking news! Join our Hot Topics list. >http://www.topica.com/lists/breakingnews/t/12 > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 12:56:31 -0800 (PST) From: moone100@chapman.edu Subject: RE: one more thought on Ghia Hatchback The description of a rear cargo area cover confuses me. I didn't think these appeared on Mustangs until 1979 Fox versions. Any thoughts from the group? I believe the Ghia designation was carried through 1980. Paul >i don't have much information, for i wasn't aware it was a protype... the >owner.. who sold it to me is a rare car collector... that's all they do.... >usually gull wing types or unusual jags (like an xke '57)... etc.... and he >had this little fast back ghia sitting over in a corner and i asked if the v8 >was origianlly in the car.. and he said yes, but it had had a miss and they >had overhauled the motor, but it still was missing... as before... so... i >asked what he wanted; i traded him even for my totally disassymbled '73 cj5 >jeep and i drove away... maybe our confustion is over terms... a fast back >for me is a slopping back that when the rear area is opened, the glass and >all raises... the rear seat lowers as u wish.. and it has a roll over cover >that retracts or u pull it to the rear and it hides ur contents.... that is a >fast back... a notch back looks similar to a standard car in that it has a >true trunk without access to the forward area.... it is heaver than the >fastback and the fast back is i think more popular.... i hope some one >knows more 'formal' discriptions on this... anyway... what i own is a >fastback.. '76 mustang GHIA.... with a v8 motor and it is the finest handling >car for the money one the american road... far better than the other 70's >cars in its class.... yet, not the recognition it deserves... until my baby >hit the rubber to the road...... thanks and see ya > > >_____________________________________________________________ >Keep up with breaking news! Join our Hot Topics list. >http://www.topica.com/lists/breakingnews/t/12 > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 16:30:32 EST From: REBELMUST@aol.com Subject: Re: Mustang II rack yes we have v8 motor mount to frame rail brackets,specify year ,50.00 a pair,shipping is 10.00 thanks,steve.rebel mustang,e-mail is rebelmust@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:01:26 EST From: REBELMUST@aol.com Subject: Re: Mustang II rack regarding bumper skins i currently have several great used ones,100.00 each plus shipping,specify bumper guards or not and what kind of trim you have,have the motor mounts too,thanks Steve at rebel mustang ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:09:22 EST From: REBELMUST@aol.com Subject: Re: Mustang II rack i have the chrome strip you need,great used cond. 20.00 plus shipping,on getting looks from the ladies while driving your mustang ii try rolling a pair of your underwear in the window so it hangs outside the car and flaps in the wind when you are driving, i find this gets plenty of looks from all types of lades young and old,good luck . thanks,Steve at rebel mustang ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:17:54 EST From: REBELMUST@aol.com Subject: Re: one more thought on Ghia Hatchback does this ghia fastback have padded rear inner quarters? like the coupe does? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:27:54 -0500 From: LYNETTE SHAW Subject: Re: Mustang II Ghia I also have a Mustang II hatchback Ghia. It is a '78 with T-tops and the 2.3 l. It has a vinyl strip across the top and the smaller quarter panel windows (they're actually the same size but the vinyl covers the front section of them making them look smaller.) I am putting the King Cobra parts on it that I got from when my former roomate totalled his '78 and gave it an undeserving trip to the scrapyard. I also have the large input spline C-4 mated up to the 2.3 l. It shifts awesomely at around 6500 and the 4 cyl. really comes to life when you wind it up. Unfortunately the flexplate shears after a while. I must have the wrong torque converter, or some alignment problem with the converter at the crank. The original converter only had 3 attachment bolts to the flexplate and I needed 4 for the 2.3 l. flexplate so the local tranny shop sold me this converter which works great except for this problem. It was tough finding one that would bolt up to the 2.3 AND accepted the large input shaft. Any thoughts on this would greatly help. I am also currently installing an Electromotive Inc.TEC-II which is a crank- triggered ignition and fuel injection unit. The next step is to turbocharge a 2.3. Can anyone tell me if the intake and exhaust manifolds from a turbo 2.3 will fit on a normally aspirated 2.3 and what are the disadvantages of turbocharging the normally aspirated 2.3. (Of course the compression ratio will probably have to be changed.) This car has been totally stripped and is just about better than new, but I still need some new door hinge pins and bushings which I can't seem to find. I would also like to find some side and rear window louvres. If anyone can help I would certainly appreciate it. Thanks, Bill. "Timothy M. Grahl" wrote: > There is also the possibility that the dash has been replaced as well as the > VIN. I recently had a 78 Rallye with a V-8 in which the VIN had been > changed to a 74 coupe. The VIN numbers on the fender wells did not match > the one on the dash. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Darryl Lang (Entex) > To: 'mustangii@topica.com' > Date: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 2:41 PM > Subject: RE: Mustang II rack > > >I sure wouldn't remove the emblems, but a Fastback Ghia is a new one on me > >too... > > > >I've had 2 Ghias, and both were coupes. > > > >I have a Coupe that says Ghia all over it, but that's because someone > >swapped the interior from a Ghia into it. The cars are over 20 years old > >and many changes may have been made by previous owners. > > > >We'd be real real real interested if you vin has "05" as the 3rd and 4th > >place in it. > > > >If you want to see actual pics... > > > >for Ghias: > >http://www.mustangii.org/gallery/coupe.shtml > > > >Fastbacks: > >http://www.mustangii.org/gallery/hatch.shtml > > > >Darryl > > > >-----Original Message----- > >my mustang II is a '76 fast back ghia... it shows ghia all over and perhaps > >ur mistaken here... now;a fast back (for my interpretation) is a 'lift > back' > > > >or 'hatchback' wherein when you open the rear.. u open the rear window and > >all... and according to three books i've seen (free at the library hehe) > >.... > >a picture is shown in each of the fastback ghia... but no notch back > >ghias... have i seen; though i am new to the stang II ... yet .... i love > >this car more than any other i've owned... its really pretty; it handles > >superbly; it moves with any level of agression i need.... (like if someone > >want allow me onto the freeway i can either brake or scat.... and i scat... > >and not once has someone prevented my entry well out in front of them ... > >oh; > >i do not do road rage.... too protective of my baby, the ghia).... anyone > >else have a thought on this.. do i need to remove the Ghia labels and > >factory > >embalms..all over the car?... thangs and bye > > > > > >_____________________________________________________________ > >Keep up with breaking news! Join our Hot Topics list. > >http://www.topica.com/lists/breakingnews/t/12 > > > > > >_____________________________________________________________ > >Keep up with breaking news! Join our Hot Topics list. > >http://www.topica.com/lists/breakingnews/t/12 > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 14:47:48 -0800 From: "Darryl Lang (Entex)" Subject: RE: Mustang II Ghia All T-Top IIs came with the vinyl strip across the roof, except for T-Top Cobras. It's called a Targa band. The intake manifold from an EFI turbo are absolutely identical to the intake on an EFI N/A motor. The heads are way different between a '78 2.3L and the EFI 2.3L. The older 2.3L has oval port heads and the newer 2.3L has D-Port heads (or visa-versa). Swapping a complete turbo motor in place of an N/A motor is the recommended method. The turbo motor has a drilled and tapped boss for the turbo's oil return line. You'd also have all the correct mounting brackets with the turbo motor. The turbo motor is a high nickel content block with forged TRW pistons and the older style combustion chamber. The N/A EFI motors have a heart shaped combustion chamber. There's some pictures of a 2.3L Turbo in a '78 T-Top on my web page: http://fp.premier1.net/a351must http://fp.premier1.net/a351must/78TTop/78ttop.htm Darryl Lang '74 Coupe 351W C4 '77 Mach 1 5.0L HO 4spd '78 T-Top 2.3L EFI Turbo 5spd -----Original Message----- I also have a Mustang II hatchback Ghia. It is a '78 with T-tops and the 2.3 l. It has a vinyl strip across the top and the smaller quarter panel windows (they're actually the same size but the vinyl covers the front section of them making them look smaller.) I am putting the King Cobra parts on it that I got from when my former roomate totalled his '78 and gave it an undeserving trip to the scrapyard. I also have the large input spline C-4 mated up to the 2.3 l. It shifts awesomely at around 6500 and the 4 cyl. really comes to life when you wind it up. Unfortunately the flexplate shears after a while. I must have the wrong torque converter, or some alignment problem with the converter at the crank. The original converter only had 3 attachment bolts to the flexplate and I needed 4 for the 2.3 l. flexplate so the local tranny shop sold me this converter which works great except for this problem. It was tough finding one that would bolt up to the 2.3 AND accepted the large input shaft. Any thoughts on this would greatly help. I am also currently installing an Electromotive Inc.TEC-II which is a crank- triggered ignition and fuel injection unit. The next step is to turbocharge a 2.3. Can anyone tell me if the intake and exhaust manifolds from a turbo 2.3 will fit on a normally aspirated 2.3 and what are the disadvantages of turbocharging the normally aspirated 2.3. (Of course the compression ratio will probably have to be changed.) This car has been totally stripped and is just about better than new, but I still need some new door hinge pins and bushings which I can't seem to find. I would also like to find some side and rear window louvres. If anyone can help I would certainly appreciate it. Thanks, Bill. "Timothy M. Grahl" wrote: > There is also the possibility that the dash has been replaced as well as the > VIN. I recently had a 78 Rallye with a V-8 in which the VIN had been > changed to a 74 coupe. The VIN numbers on the fender wells did not match > the one on the dash. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Darryl Lang (Entex) > To: 'mustangii@topica.com' > Date: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 2:41 PM > Subject: RE: Mustang II rack > > >I sure wouldn't remove the emblems, but a Fastback Ghia is a new one on me > >too... > > > >I've had 2 Ghias, and both were coupes. > > > >I have a Coupe that says Ghia all over it, but that's because someone > >swapped the interior from a Ghia into it. The cars are over 20 years old > >and many changes may have been made by previous owners. > > > >We'd be real real real interested if you vin has "05" as the 3rd and 4th > >place in it. > > > >If you want to see actual pics... > > > >for Ghias: > >http://www.mustangii.org/gallery/coupe.shtml > > > >Fastbacks: > >http://www.mustangii.org/gallery/hatch.shtml > > > >Darryl > > > >-----Original Message----- > >my mustang II is a '76 fast back ghia... it shows ghia all over and perhaps > >ur mistaken here... now;a fast back (for my interpretation) is a 'lift > back' > > > >or 'hatchback' wherein when you open the rear.. u open the rear window and > >all... and according to three books i've seen (free at the library hehe) > >.... > >a picture is shown in each of the fastback ghia... but no notch back > >ghias... have i seen; though i am new to the stang II ... yet .... i love > >this car more than any other i've owned... its really pretty; it handles > >superbly; it moves with any level of agression i need.... (like if someone > >want allow me onto the freeway i can either brake or scat.... and i scat... > >and not once has someone prevented my entry well out in front of them ... > >oh; > >i do not do road rage.... too protective of my baby, the ghia).... anyone > >else have a thought on this.. do i need to remove the Ghia labels and > >factory > >embalms..all over the car?... thangs and bye > > > > > >_____________________________________________________________ > >Keep up with breaking news! Join our Hot Topics list. > >http://www.topica.com/lists/breakingnews/t/12 > > > > > >_____________________________________________________________ > >Keep up with breaking news! Join our Hot Topics list. > >http://www.topica.com/lists/breakingnews/t/12 > > _____________________________________________________________ Keep up with breaking news! Join our Hot Topics list. http://www.topica.com/lists/breakingnews/t/12 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:59:43 -0600 From: Donnie Nix Subject: Re: Mustang II Ghia --------------A6048E0D711543C83A3B1814 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry about the size of these pictures. This is the first time I have ever emailed a picture, but I felt it was necessary when discussing this topic. This is not a custom butcher job. This picture came out of "Consumer Guide, Mustang: America's Favorite Pony Car." It can be found on page 64 with the following caption (the date of the fastback ghia is 1-25-74): "A Ghia 'Sport' fastback (top) was considered, but never produced, probably because the sporty and luxery concepts were at odds with one another. The big news for 1975 was the re-emergence of a V-8 option, a 302-cid unit and, for the Ghia, a $151 Silver Luxery Group (center). Even the base models (bottom) boasted solid-state ignition and steel belted radial tires." It is possible that someone could have done an aftermarket conversion, or this one could have escaped. Bobby [Image] --------------A6048E0D711543C83A3B1814 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="------------EE37626ED56A83922C7B1BFD" --------------EE37626ED56A83922C7B1BFD Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry about the size of these pictures. This is the first time I have ever emailed a picture, but I felt it was necessary when discussing this topic. This is not a custom butcher job. This picture came out of "Consumer Guide, Mustang: America's Favorite Pony Car." It can be found on page 64 with the following caption (the date of the fastback ghia is 1-25-74): "A Ghia 'Sport' fastback (top) was considered, but never produced, probably because the sporty and luxery concepts were at odds with one another. The big news for 1975 was the re-emergence of a V-8 option, a 302-cid unit and, for the Ghia, a $151 Silver Luxery Group (center). Even the base models (bottom) boasted solid-state ignition and steel belted radial tires." It is possible that someone could have done an aftermarket conversion, or this one could have escaped. Bobby ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:27:19 -0700 From: Mark Ward Subject: Re: one more thought on Ghia Hatchback moone100@chapman.edu wrote: > > The description of a rear cargo area cover confuses me. I didn't > think these appeared on Mustangs until 1979 Fox versions. > Any thoughts from the group? I believe the Ghia designation > was carried through 1980. > Paul > That's a good point. Ford did make a 79-81 Ghia hatchback. Also, the 3.2 liter engine size that was mentioned earlier. If that wasn't a typo meaning 2.3 4-cyl, it could be the straight six that was used in the early fox cars. Just a thought. -- Mark Ward KCobraII@uswest.net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 19:46:27 -0600 From: "Ralph C Stenic" Subject: Re: 4cyl to V-8 conversion ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 11:58 AM Subject: Re: 4cyl to V-8 conversion > In a message dated 1/10/00 11:06:44 PM Central Standard Time, > Gr8pmkn1969@aol.com writes: > > << Les Schwab >> > is that a dealer net work? i'm in the ft. worth/arlington texas area.... > wonder who would have v8 capable springs? my car bounces like it thinks its > at a Low Rider convention and all the Hispanics around here look like they > wanna have my car for a show... haha > > > ____ Call Performance Suspension Technology ( PST ). you can find there number in any hot rod mag or mustang mags. _________________________________________________________ > Keep up with breaking news! Join our Hot Topics list. > http://www.topica.com/lists/breakingnews/t/12 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 19:43:47 -0500 From: "Mark." Subject: Re: one more thought on Ghia Hatchback moone100@chapman.edu wrote: > The description of a rear cargo area cover confuses me. I didn't > think these appeared on Mustangs until 1979 Fox versions. > Any thoughts from the group? I believe the Ghia designation > was carried through 1980. That's how long the Italians could hang with a FoxStang. That's infinitely longer than me. For me, It took one look .... -- Mark. mailto:D8Mach@yahoo.com MustangII.Org Locale: http://www.bright.net/~rheschel/locator Never argue with a fool, a bystander can't tell you apart. ( Mark Twain ). When in doubt, Hit the throttle. It may not help, but it sure ends the suspense. ( Gaz?, rec.motorcycles ). __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 00:48:16 GMT From: "tim thompson" Subject: RE: one more thought on Ghia Hatchback Doufeelthis2?...all i feel is my leg being severely pulled. Rear-mounted rack, fastback ghia, cargo cover......... Tim >From: moone100@chapman.edu >Reply-To: mustangii@topica.com >To: mustangii@topica.com >Subject: RE: one more thought on Ghia Hatchback >Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 12:57:36 -0800 > >The description of a rear cargo area cover confuses me. I didn't >think these appeared on Mustangs until 1979 Fox versions. >Any thoughts from the group? I believe the Ghia designation >was carried through 1980. >Paul > > > >i don't have much information, for i wasn't aware it was a protype... the > >owner.. who sold it to me is a rare car collector... that's all they >do.... > >usually gull wing types or unusual jags (like an xke '57)... etc.... and >he > >had this little fast back ghia sitting over in a corner and i asked if >the v8 > >was origianlly in the car.. and he said yes, but it had had a miss and >they > >had overhauled the motor, but it still was missing... as before... so... >i > >asked what he wanted; i traded him even for my totally disassymbled '73 >cj5 > >jeep and i drove away... maybe our confustion is over terms... a fast >back > >for me is a slopping back that when the rear area is opened, the glass >and > >all raises... the rear seat lowers as u wish.. and it has a roll over >cover > >that retracts or u pull it to the rear and it hides ur contents.... that >is a > >fast back... a notch back looks similar to a standard car in that it >has a > >true trunk without access to the forward area.... it is heaver than the > >fastback and the fast back is i think more popular.... i hope some one > >knows more 'formal' discriptions on this... anyway... what i own is a > >fastback.. '76 mustang GHIA.... with a v8 motor and it is the finest >handling > >car for the money one the american road... far better than the other 70's > >cars in its class.... yet, not the recognition it deserves... until my >baby > >hit the rubber to the road...... thanks and see ya > > > > > >_____________________________________________________________ > >Keep up with breaking news! Join our Hot Topics list. > >http://www.topica.com/lists/breakingnews/t/12 > > > > > > >_____________________________________________________________ >Keep up with breaking news! Join our Hot Topics list. >http://www.topica.com/lists/breakingnews/t/12 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 21:28:33 EST From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Subject: Re: Mustang II rack my 1976 'fastback' first 6 digits are: 6R04Y1 the additional numbers apparently are the run sequence of that production year... so mine was the 72,386 made that year.... a friend said that may have been so late in the production year that it was a protype for 1977.... don't have a clue if he's right... it does have a 302 V8 and i know the 'Y' digit inplys a 3.2 four cyl. but as for being a ghia... i wanna know ... if its a prototype then nice... if not; what is it? no door numbers exist ... some rat peeled them off.... hmmmm rat? probably a 409? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 21:40:01 EST From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Subject: Re: Ghia hatchback thanks for that info... it may be correct for this one; 1. this one was made in california... 2. this one's original owner... an older man who swore it came with a V8... and.. 3. The antique dealer where i bought it says he wouldn't swap a motor out... too much expense and trouble.. he has about 50 cars at a time and they don't have time for american or japanese cars.. so he merely bought this one (he says) as a token of friendship to the origianl owner, his friend... its only been registered to one owner..... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 21:39:21 EST From: COBRAII976@aol.com Subject: Re: Mustang II rack In a message dated 1/11/00 9:29:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, DoUFeelThis2@aol.com writes: Ok th Car decodes as thie 6= 1976 R= San Jose Assembly plant 04= 2 door ghia Y 140 Cid 2.3 liter 2V 4 cyl engine So I would have to say that your car has been built from several cars or stolen or the vin has been swapped there is a secret vin on the car under the fender time to retrive it. Dave > my 1976 'fastback' first 6 digits are: 6R04Y1 the additional numbers > apparently are the run sequence of that production year... so mine was the > 72,386 made that year.... a friend said that may have been so late in the > production year that it was a protype for 1977.... don't have a clue if he' > s > right... it does have a 302 V8 and i know the 'Y' digit inplys a 3.2 four > cyl. but as for being a ghia... i wanna know ... if its a prototype then > nice... if not; what is it? no door numbers exist ... some rat peeled them > off.... hmmmm rat? probably a 409? ------------------------------ End of mustangii@topica.com digest, issue 9 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To: mustangii@topica.com Subject: Digest for mustangii@topica.com, issue 10 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 03:32:00 -0800 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Topica Digest -- Re: one more thought on Ghia Hatchback By DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Re: Mustang II rack By drnix@wcc.net Re: Mustang II rack By Cobraii976@aol.com Re: Mustang II rack By drnix@wcc.net By mm@handtech.com Re: 4cyl to V-8 conversion By Gr8pmkn1969@aol.com Ghia Fastback? By Gr8pmkn1969@aol.com Re: Mustang II rack By Gr8pmkn1969@aol.com 2.3 turbo By Gr8pmkn1969@aol.com Re: Mustang II rack By Gr8pmkn1969@aol.com Re: Mustang II rack By DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Re: one more thought on Ghia Hatchback By DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Re: Mustang II Ghia By DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Re: Mustang II Ghia By DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Re: Mustang II Ghia By DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Re: 4cyl to V-8 conversion By DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Re: one more thought on Ghia Hatchback By DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Re: one more thought on Ghia Hatchback By DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Re: one more thought on Ghia Hatchback By DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Re: 4cyl to V-8 conversion By DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Re: Mustang II rack By DoUFeelThis2@aol.com ------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 21:45:34 EST From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Subject: Re: one more thought on Ghia Hatchback mine has a cover and its vin says 6 for '76... its red... and made of vinal and rolls back or forward in retrival... (forward being 'back' to the latch ... )hmmmmm.. first time in history forward and back are the same?.. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 20:46:02 -0600 From: Donnie Nix Subject: Re: Mustang II rack I'd have to say something is really messed up about that VIN #, because I doubt it can be a prototype. The only picture of a prtotype GHIA Fastback I have seen was made in 1974. By the way did anyone get that picture I sent? Cobraii976@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 1/11/00 9:29:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, > DoUFeelThis2@aol.com writes: > Ok th Car decodes as thie > 6= 1976 > R= San Jose Assembly plant > 04= 2 door ghia > Y 140 Cid 2.3 liter 2V 4 cyl engine > So I would have to say that your car has been built from several cars or > stolen or the vin has been swapped there is a secret vin on the car under the > fender time to retrive it. > Dave > > my 1976 'fastback' first 6 digits are: 6R04Y1 the additional numbers > > apparently are the run sequence of that production year... so mine was the > > 72,386 made that year.... a friend said that may have been so late in the > > production year that it was a protype for 1977.... don't have a clue if > he' > > s > > right... it does have a 302 V8 and i know the 'Y' digit inplys a 3.2 four > > cyl. but as for being a ghia... i wanna know ... if its a prototype then > > nice... if not; what is it? no door numbers exist ... some rat peeled > them > > off.... hmmmm rat? probably a 409? > > _____________________________________________________________ > Keep up with breaking news! Join our Hot Topics list. > http://www.topica.com/lists/breakingnews/t/12 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 21:49:46 EST From: COBRAII976@aol.com Subject: Re: Mustang II rack I got the pic and I have to say I hated it the first time I saw it and I still do. Dave ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 20:51:57 -0600 From: Donnie Nix Subject: Re: Mustang II rack I didn't care for it when I first saw it either, but it was interesting knowing that Ford actually went that far in considering it. Cobraii976@aol.com wrote: > I got the pic and I have to say I hated it the first time I saw it and I > still do. > Dave > > _____________________________________________________________ > Keep up with breaking news! Join our Hot Topics list. > http://www.topica.com/lists/breakingnews/t/12 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 22:40:08 -0800 From: "Mike A Iannelli" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01BF5C84.D00E4DA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Please take me off the E-mail list ,Thank You Mike=20 ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01BF5C84.D00E4DA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Please take me off the E-mail list = ,Thank You Mike=20 ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01BF5C84.D00E4DA0-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 23:03:49 EST From: Gr8pmkn1969@aol.com Subject: Re: 4cyl to V-8 conversion sorry, les schwab is primarily on the west coast. any good suspension shop should be able to fix up a set of springs. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 23:08:29 EST From: Gr8pmkn1969@aol.com Subject: Ghia Fastback? as far as I am aware, the ghia was a fancy version of the II coupe. options for the hatchback were, depending on year, Mach 1, Stallion, Cobra II, King Cobra, Rallye, MPG, and base. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 23:09:49 EST From: Gr8pmkn1969@aol.com Subject: Re: Mustang II rack sorry, did you say your car has a vinyl top or not? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 23:17:44 EST From: Gr8pmkn1969@aol.com Subject: 2.3 turbo I think the cylinder head is almost identical on the carbureted and turbo 2.3's. Exhaust should bolt on. However I would try to find a turbo manifold anyway. It will probably flow better. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 23:23:09 EST From: Gr8pmkn1969@aol.com Subject: Re: Mustang II rack sorry drnix, no pix ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 01:57:32 EST From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Subject: Re: Mustang II rack steve is there a way for me to order the chrome strip thru the regualar mail... im not allowed to order anything on the net.... but $20.00 sounds fair so... send me ur 800 # so we can talk. k? thanks ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 02:11:07 EST From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Subject: Re: one more thought on Ghia Hatchback i sent it to our mechanic yesterday before ur email.... i don't recall so i'll go visit and see..... he's about 40 miles away and i'll have to get someone to take me; but i'm curious enough to find out for u.... by the way... i talked to him late today and he found two problems....1. (the v8 is missing on #5 and #7 cylenders on his tach tester).... so implys a vaccum leak; and 2. ... the exhaust pipe at the rear, 'sucks' as well as thursts out. .. (which implys when the head's were milled; the the push rods were not machined down properly and left at the same height or; the meachanic who reassembled the motor, failed to turn them down properly, thus leaving two cylenders not showing a register... they are hydralic lifters)...... so.... today, when the engine is cold and not a chance to burning his hands... he'll perform a proper vaccum leak test.... and then tell me the cost of fixing it.... oh..... does anyone know if the aluminum plenum between the carb. and the intake manifold is essential? this is a '76 stangII so does the epa require it?????... i know the hot rodders like to use these to keep the gases cooler for more 'scat' but... i think part of my problem relates to this and it would make it easer to put on a good gasket there.... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 02:22:01 EST From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Subject: Re: Mustang II Ghia In a message dated 1/11/00 4:33:31 PM Central Standard Time, guitwild@erols.com writes: << up. Unfortunately the flexplate shears after a while. I must have the wrong torque converter, or some alignment problem with the converter at the crank. The original converter only had 3 attachment bolts to the flexplate and I needed 4 for the 2.3 l. >> i am looking for a source for u; there is a outfit ... conington somethig or other.... i'll find their catolog and get u there number... anyway.. what they do is work their magic on the 2.3.. do u know they have parts that will bring ur baby up to 500 hp? yep. true... wipe a carvette's dipper... they do the circle track circuit cars and for a long time now the motor of choice has beeen... guess? yep, the 2.3 soooooo getting to ur question; they do and ........i repeat do... have the parts u need and they do not recommend turbo... but they offer the install kit complete.... but u choose the turbo itself... they have a abhorance to the computer needs vs. carb. needs too so they don't go for fuel injection much either.. and they win the top dollars every year so they know what they are talking about... if i was to blow the v8, and i found my car really had a 2.3 at stock.. i'd put in a 2.3 again and smile as i blased by some v8'rs... but i'd have a $1200.00 head; headers; stroked motor... etc... so... costs... not far apart...for a beef up... but.. ur 2.3 is a fine piece no matter what anyone might tell u... thanks for everything... this is a great web site... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 02:28:46 EST From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Subject: Re: Mustang II Ghia This guy is smart; knows what he's talking about... i once was suduced by the dark side of the force and got excited about the little Escort XLT (looked close to a mustang II) and it had a turbo 2.3; motor lasted about half as long as a non-turbo... so to the junk yard.. i got a t-bird 2.3 with turbo... and wow... seemed even faster; lasted 1/3 as long as a non-turbo -- why get a turbo when u can convert to a different cam; better head and jump up ur hp... and have no lag; no sag; and no drag? hmmmm... well i had to end it in a rhyme didn't i? bye... and take care... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 02:32:34 EST From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Subject: Re: Mustang II Ghia my '76 does not look like that side view of ur fast back ghia... it has the ghia interior with emblems, etc... and it has a fast back looking like the cobra's.... it has v8 emblems on both of the front fenders sides.. but its vin has the 'y' designation.. so looks more and more like a retrofit.. but so well done.. wow... thanks.. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 02:34:33 EST From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Subject: Re: 4cyl to V-8 conversion Thanks for that.... good tip... i appreciate it and i'm doing it.... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 02:36:12 EST From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Subject: Re: one more thought on Ghia Hatchback Well.... when a pretty girl looks over ur way from an suv.. and looking down on u in ur mustang II... here is what to do... my daddy told me... when in doubt... whip it out....!!!! hahaha ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 02:42:45 EST From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Subject: Re: one more thought on Ghia Hatchback p.s. the rear seats let down to a flat position too... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 02:42:09 EST From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Subject: Re: one more thought on Ghia Hatchback i have pictures.... mike asked me to send one of the outside... so i'll see about sending u some of the back area with the window hatch raised.... and about ur leg.. hmmmm i don't do legs... uh.. are u a girl... i do, do girls.... legs... gosh... i don't pull them thou... is that a new kinky technique no one has told me about.... do girls like that? do u take prescription drugs? frankly.. i don't like someone suggesting i'd 'pull their let'... in texas that equals lying.. i'm no liar.. what i say here i only know of by sight... i'm not now thinking this car is a ghia becasue of a pic i just saw... but it says ghia inside; embelms; interior... etc... and it does have what i said.. a roller at the rear (over the wheel area in the rear), and it does unroll and lock back at the very back and it does wind up automaticly... if i let it go free.... and it is vynal.... oh; and it is red! thanks.... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 02:48:17 EST From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Subject: Re: 4cyl to V-8 conversion any suspension (they all claim they're good) will not know the mustang II i have found... they offer whatever they sell and do not give correct advice i'm finding... i think a view to the sources on this page are ur best advice... i'm going with monroe shocks... and probably factory springs from ford..... low riding sucs.... thanks.. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 02:53:34 EST From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Subject: Re: Mustang II rack no vynil top.... thanks... i really am glad it doesn't have one... but more and more i'm thinking the interior was completely changed out including the dash face and and console and all.... also.. haha... i'm beginning to think of buying a cobra and selling this car so there wont be any controversy.. oh.. the cobra... does $800.00 sound fair? has v8; has run in aover 15 years but in very good condition; no body work ever done; no rust; interior looks like new; wheels original; think its a '77 or '79 but the hood has the raised thingy.. and the front area has fog lights..... etc.... so.... should i? ------------------------------ End of mustangii@topica.com digest, issue 10 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To: mustangii@topica.com Subject: Digest for mustangii@topica.com, issue 3 Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 03:32:27 -0800 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Topica Digest -- [Fwd: door hinge pins] By stangii@mustangii.net Re: [Fwd: door hinge pins] By rebelmust@aol.com Re: [Fwd: door hinge pins] By guitwild@erols.com Re: [Fwd: door hinge pins] By guitwild@erols.com ------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 06:28:16 -0800 From: "Timothy Grahl" Cc: guitwild@mustangii.net Subject: [Fwd: door hinge pins] I forwarded this message to the list. Does anyone have or know where he can get these parts? Tim >Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 01:51:24 -0800 >From: "BILL ELLIOTT" >To: stangii@mustangii.net >Subject: door hinge pins > >Can anybody help me find new door hinge pins & bushings for my '78 >Mustang? > > > >------------------------------------------------------------ >Get your free email at the Mustang II Network >http://www.mustangii.net ------------------------------------------------------------ Get your free email at the Mustang II Network http://www.mustangii.net ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 16:20:27 EST From: REBELMUST@aol.com Subject: Re: [Fwd: door hinge pins] i have none of the hindge parts but have great used hindges complete 20.00 each,thanks steve ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 18:05:56 -0500 From: LYNETTE SHAW Subject: Re: [Fwd: door hinge pins] Tim, thanks for your help with this. Bill Timothy Grahl wrote: > I forwarded this message to the list. Does anyone have or know where he can get these parts? > > Tim > > >Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 01:51:24 -0800 > >From: "BILL ELLIOTT" > >To: stangii@mustangii.net > >Subject: door hinge pins > > > >Can anybody help me find new door hinge pins & bushings for my '78 > >Mustang? > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------ > >Get your free email at the Mustang II Network > >http://www.mustangii.net > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Get your free email at the Mustang II Network > http://www.mustangii.net > > _____________________________________________________________ > Get your favorite topic delivered daily. > http://www.topica.com/t/11 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 18:08:06 -0500 From: LYNETTE SHAW Subject: Re: [Fwd: door hinge pins] Thnks for your e-mail. If I can't find the parts I need, I will be getting in touch with you. Bill rebelmust@aol.com wrote: > i have none of the hindge parts but have great used hindges complete 20.00 > each,thanks steve > > _____________________________________________________________ > Get your favorite topic delivered daily. > http://www.topica.com/t/11 ------------------------------ End of mustangii@topica.com digest, issue 3 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To: mustangii@topica.com Subject: Digest for mustangii@topica.com, issue 4 Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 03:32:43 -0800 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Topica Digest -- New Articles area By stangii@mustangii.net Re: New Articles area By cobra_2_76@yahoo.com Re: New Articles area By tgrahl@iocenter.net Y2K bug? By tgrahl@iocenter.net Re: Y2K bug? By cobra_2_76@yahoo.com Re: Y2K bug? By hd7480@altavista.com ------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 12:44:03 -0800 From: "Timothy Grahl" Subject: New Articles area I have started a new area on the Mustang II Network which will contain various articles and papers on the Mustang II. The direct URL is http://www.mustangii.net/articles.htm and you can also access thru the navigation on the site. I have about 30 articles that will be posted in the next few weeks but am looking for articles that you may have that you would like to see on the site. If you have an article, email it to me or fax it at (313) 537-3536 Thanks, Tim ------------------------------------------------------------ Get your free email at the Mustang II Network http://www.mustangii.net ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 12:55:42 -0800 (PST) From: David Wilson Subject: Re: New Articles area Are you talking historical articles: magazines, books etc, or FAQ type information? --- Timothy Grahl wrote: > I have started a new area on the Mustang II Network > which will contain various articles and papers on > the Mustang II. The direct URL is > http://www.mustangii.net/articles.htm and you can > also access thru the navigation on the site. > > I have about 30 articles that will be posted in the > next few weeks but am looking for articles that you > may have that you would like to see on the site. > > If you have an article, email it to me or fax it at > (313) 537-3536 > > Thanks, > > Tim > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Get your free email at the Mustang II Network > http://www.mustangii.net > > > _____________________________________________________________ > Get your favorite topic delivered daily. > http://www.topica.com/t/11 > ===== Dave Wilson Cobra_2_76@yahoo.com My Cobra II, hosted by Dan Polk http://www.northpro.net/~polk/mii/ My home page is : http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Speedway/7500/index.html alt mail: Dwilson@ftmc.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 15:58:28 -0500 From: "Timothy M. Grahl" Subject: Re: New Articles area This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00A7_01BF5928.097E4FA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Magazine articles, press releases, white papers, etc. Book articles would work too. FAQ's would be appreciated but would go in a different area on the site. One of the goals of the Mustang II Network site is to centralize as much information on the IIs as possible. So in theory, any information that you would be willing to share can be put somewhere on the site. Tim -----Original Message----- From: David Wilson To: mustangii@topica.com Date: Friday, January 07, 2000 3:54 PM Subject: Re: New Articles area >Are you talking historical articles: magazines, books >etc, or FAQ type information? > >--- Timothy Grahl wrote: >> I have started a new area on the Mustang II Network >> which will contain various articles and papers on >> the Mustang II. The direct URL is >> http://www.mustangii.net/articles.htm and you can >> also access thru the navigation on the site. >> >> I have about 30 articles that will be posted in the >> next few weeks but am looking for articles that you >> may have that you would like to see on the site. >> >> If you have an article, email it to me or fax it at >> (313) 537-3536 >> >> Thanks, >> >> Tim >> >> >> >> >> >------------------------------------------------------------ >> Get your free email at the Mustang II Network >> http://www.mustangii.net >> >> >> >_____________________________________________________________ >> Get your favorite topic delivered daily. >> http://www.topica.com/t/11 >> > > >===== >Dave Wilson >Cobra_2_76@yahoo.com >My Cobra II, hosted by Dan Polk >http://www.northpro.net/~polk/mii/ >My home page is : >http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Speedway/7500/index.html >alt mail: Dwilson@ftmc.com >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. >http://im.yahoo.com > > >_____________________________________________________________ >Get your favorite topic delivered daily. >http://www.topica.com/t/11 > > ------=_NextPart_000_00A7_01BF5928.097E4FA0 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; name="Timothy M. Grahl.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Timothy M. Grahl.vcf" BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Grahl;Timothy;M. FN:Timothy M. Grahl ORG:Internet Operations Center;Web Development TITLE:Web Development and E-Commerce Specialist TEL;WORK;VOICE:248.204.8806 TEL;HOME;VOICE:313.533.1280 TEL;HOME;FAX:313.537.3536 ADR;WORK;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:;;200 Galleria = Officentre=3D0D=3D0ASuite 109;Southfield;Michigan;48240;USA LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:200 Galleria = Officentre=3D0D=3D0ASuite 109=3D0D=3D0ASouthfield, Michigan = 48240=3D0D=3D =3D0AUSA ADR;HOME:;;19964 Fox;Redford;MI;48240;USA LABEL;HOME;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:19964 Fox=3D0D=3D0ARedford, MI = 48240=3D0D=3D0AUSA URL:http://www.mustangii.net URL:http://www.iocenter.net EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:tgrahl@iocenter.net REV:20000107T205828Z END:VCARD ------=_NextPart_000_00A7_01BF5928.097E4FA0-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 16:48:28 -0500 From: "Timothy M. Grahl" Subject: Y2K bug? This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00D5_01BF592F.05C40290 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_00D6_01BF592F.05C40290" ------=_NextPart_001_00D6_01BF592F.05C40290 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok, all of you PC gurus, if you look at the Articles area of the = Mustang II Network and look at the "last updated date", does anyone = else's browser display the two digit year as 100? The script that is producing the output is as follows and the getYear = command is the one that is throwing the year 100. I can't seem to find = anything on Netscape's site referring to this problem. I am using = Communicator 4.7 and Netscape says that it is Y2K compliant. (Internet Explorer shows the year as just one 0) Any suggestions?? Timothy M. Grahl Web Development and E-Commerce Specialist Internet Operations Center 200 Galleria Officentre Suite 109 Southfield, Michigan 48034 tgrahl@iocenter.net 248.204.8806 ------=_NextPart_001_00D6_01BF592F.05C40290 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok, all of you PC gurus, if = you look at=20 the Articles area of the Mustang II Network and look at the "last = updated=20 date", does anyone else's browser display the two digit year as=20 100? The script that is producing the output is as = follows and the=20 getYear command is the one that is throwing the year 100. I can't = seem to=20 find anything on Netscape's site referring to this problem. I am = using=20 Communicator 4.7 and Netscape says that it is Y2K = compliant. (Internet Explorer shows the year as just one = 0) Any suggestions?? Timothy M. Grahl Web Development = and=20 E-Commerce Specialist Internet Operations Center 200 Galleria=20 Officentre Suite 109 Southfield, Michigan 48034 tgrahl@iocenter.net 248.204.88= 06 ------=_NextPart_001_00D6_01BF592F.05C40290-- ------=_NextPart_000_00D5_01BF592F.05C40290 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; name="Timothy M. Grahl.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Timothy M. Grahl.vcf" BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Grahl;Timothy;M. FN:Timothy M. Grahl ORG:Internet Operations Center;Web Development TITLE:Web Development and E-Commerce Specialist TEL;WORK;VOICE:248.204.8806 TEL;HOME;VOICE:313.533.1280 TEL;HOME;FAX:313.537.3536 ADR;WORK;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:;;200 Galleria = Officentre=3D0D=3D0ASuite 109;Southfield;Michigan;48240;USA LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:200 Galleria = Officentre=3D0D=3D0ASuite 109=3D0D=3D0ASouthfield, Michigan = 48240=3D0D=3D =3D0AUSA ADR;HOME:;;19964 Fox;Redford;MI;48240;USA LABEL;HOME;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:19964 Fox=3D0D=3D0ARedford, MI = 48240=3D0D=3D0AUSA URL:http://www.mustangii.net URL:http://www.iocenter.net EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:tgrahl@iocenter.net REV:20000107T214828Z END:VCARD ------=_NextPart_000_00D5_01BF592F.05C40290-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 14:35:44 -0800 (PST) From: David Wilson Subject: Re: Y2K bug? Unless your still messing with it mine shows "01/7/0" --- "Timothy M. Grahl" wrote: > Ok, all of you PC gurus, if you look at the > Articles area of the Mustang II Network and look at > the "last updated date", does anyone else's browser > display the two digit year as 100? > > The script that is producing the output is as > follows and the getYear command is the one that is > throwing the year 100. I can't seem to find > anything on Netscape's site referring to this > problem. I am using Communicator 4.7 and Netscape > says that it is Y2K compliant. > > (Internet Explorer shows the year as just one 0) > > Any suggestions?? > > > > > > > Timothy M. Grahl > Web Development and E-Commerce Specialist > Internet Operations Center > 200 Galleria Officentre > Suite 109 > Southfield, Michigan 48034 > tgrahl@iocenter.net > 248.204.8806 > > > BEGIN:VCARD > VERSION:2.1 > N:Grahl;Timothy;M. > FN:Timothy M. Grahl > ORG:Internet Operations Center;Web Development > TITLE:Web Development and E-Commerce Specialist > TEL;WORK;VOICE:248.204.8806 > TEL;HOME;VOICE:313.533.1280 > TEL;HOME;FAX:313.537.3536 > ADR;WORK;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:;;200 Galleria > Officentre=0D=0ASuite > 109;Southfield;Michigan;48240;USA > LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:200 Galleria > Officentre=0D=0ASuite 109=0D=0ASouthfield, Michigan > 48240=0D= > =0AUSA > ADR;HOME:;;19964 Fox;Redford;MI;48240;USA > LABEL;HOME;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:19964 > Fox=0D=0ARedford, MI 48240=0D=0AUSA > URL:http://www.mustangii.net > URL:http://www.iocenter.net > EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:tgrahl@iocenter.net > REV:20000107T214828Z > END:VCARD > ===== Dave Wilson Cobra_2_76@yahoo.com My Cobra II, hosted by Dan Polk http://www.northpro.net/~polk/mii/ My home page is : http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Speedway/7500/index.html alt mail: Dwilson@ftmc.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: 7 Jan 2000 16:12:16 -0800 From: Tim Chandler Subject: Re: Y2K bug? On Fri, 07 January 2000, David Wilson wrote: Shows 01/7/0 on mine also Later Tim > > Unless your still messing with it mine shows "01/7/0" > > --- "Timothy M. Grahl" wrote: > > Ok, all of you PC gurus, if you look at the > > Articles area of the Mustang II Network and look at > > the "last updated date", does anyone else's browser > > display the two digit year as 100? > > > > The script that is producing the output is as > > follows and the getYear command is the one that is > > throwing the year 100. I can't seem to find > > anything on Netscape's site referring to this > > problem. I am using Communicator 4.7 and Netscape > > says that it is Y2K compliant. > > > > (Internet Explorer shows the year as just one 0) > > > > Any suggestions?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Timothy M. Grahl > > Web Development and E-Commerce Specialist > > Internet Operations Center > > 200 Galleria Officentre > > Suite 109 > > Southfield, Michigan 48034 > > tgrahl@iocenter.net > > 248.204.8806 > > > > > BEGIN:VCARD > > VERSION:2.1 > > N:Grahl;Timothy;M. > > FN:Timothy M. Grahl > > ORG:Internet Operations Center;Web Development > > TITLE:Web Development and E-Commerce Specialist > > TEL;WORK;VOICE:248.204.8806 > > TEL;HOME;VOICE:313.533.1280 > > TEL;HOME;FAX:313.537.3536 > > ADR;WORK;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:;;200 Galleria > > Officentre=0D=0ASuite > > 109;Southfield;Michigan;48240;USA > > LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:200 Galleria > > Officentre=0D=0ASuite 109=0D=0ASouthfield, Michigan > > 48240=0D= > > =0AUSA > > ADR;HOME:;;19964 Fox;Redford;MI;48240;USA > > LABEL;HOME;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:19964 > > Fox=0D=0ARedford, MI 48240=0D=0AUSA > > URL:http://www.mustangii.net > > URL:http://www.iocenter.net > > EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:tgrahl@iocenter.net > > REV:20000107T214828Z > > END:VCARD > > > > > ===== > Dave Wilson > Cobra_2_76@yahoo.com > My Cobra II, hosted by Dan Polk > http://www.northpro.net/~polk/mii/ > My home page is : > http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Speedway/7500/index.html > alt mail: Dwilson@ftmc.com > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com > > > _____________________________________________________________ > Get your favorite topic delivered daily. > http://www.topica.com/t/11 ______________________________________________________________ Free Internet Access from AltaVista: Get it, share it & win! http://freeaccess.altavista.com/pika/www/initweb.jsp ------------------------------ End of mustangii@topica.com digest, issue 4 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To: mustangii@topica.com Subject: Digest for mustangii@topica.com, issue 5 Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 03:31:33 -0800 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Topica Digest -- Re: New Articles area By D8Mach@yahoo.com Re: Y2K bug? By D8Mach@yahoo.com Re: New Articles area By stangii@mustangii.net Y2k problem By stangii@mustangii.net ------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 13:55:32 -0500 From: "Mark." Subject: Re: New Articles area "Timothy M. Grahl" wrote: > Magazine articles, press releases, white papers, etc. Book articles would > work too. .... Not to poop on your idea, I treat copywrited materials I post differently than "public domain" materials. Copywrite holders have been known to get pissy when they find their material posted without their permission and possible compensation. When I put up a copy of a magazine or service manual material, I put it in a "temp" directory on the server and either mail a link to the person requesting the information, or post a link to a mail list. Either way the information is usually removed within 24 hours. Handling copywrited materials in this manner limits my exposure. It also keeps the material more in the manner of hand passing a book at a public meeting. Just something to think about. -- Mark. mailto:D8Mach@yahoo.com MustangII.Org Locale: http://www.bright.net/~rheschel/locator Never argue with a fool, a bystander can't tell you apart. ( Mark Twain ). When in doubt, Hit the throttle. It may not help, but it sure ends the suspense. ( Gaz?, rec.motorcycles ). __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 14:23:16 -0500 From: "Mark." Subject: Re: Y2K bug? "Timothy M. Grahl" wrote: Ok, all of you PC gurus, if you look at the Articles area of the Mustang II Network and look at the "last updated date", does anyone else's browser display the two digit year as 100? ...... Tim, you would probably get good information/feedback on this subject if it were posted to the .Org list. IMHO. Mark. -- Mark. mailto:D8Mach@yahoo.com MustangII.Org Locale: http://www.bright.net/~rheschel/locator Never argue with a fool, a bystander can't tell you apart. ( Mark Twain ). When in doubt, Hit the throttle. It may not help, but it sure ends the suspense. ( Gaz?, rec.motorcycles ). __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 19:57:36 -0800 From: "Timothy Grahl" Subject: Re: New Articles area >To: mustangii@topica.com I agree that if I posted the information for compensation or on a site that charges a fee, there would be a major problem with copyright laws. The "Fair Use" act allows for material to be used in a way that would be seen as research or for educational purposes. I wouldn't recommend posting entire books or magazines but an article from a magazine or book here and there is covered under the fair use act. It is also wise to give credit to the source much like you would a term paper or research paper. Most of the tech information on the site comes from three different sources who I contacted and spoke to about using the information. If anyone else has a website or is concerned about any information that they may post, take a look at the following site for more information on the "fair use" act. http://fairuse.stanford.edu/ Tim >From: "Mark." >Subject: Re: New Articles area >Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2000 10:55:36 -0800 >Reply-To: mustangii@topica.com > > > >"Timothy M. Grahl" wrote: > >> Magazine articles, press releases, white papers, etc. Book articles would >> work too. .... > >Not to poop on your idea, > >I treat copywrited materials I post differently than "public domain" materials. > >Copywrite holders have been known to get pissy when they find their material >posted without their permission and possible compensation. > >When I put up a copy of a magazine or service manual material, I put it in a >"temp" directory on the server and either mail a link to the person requesting >the information, or post a link to a mail list. Either way the information is >usually removed within 24 hours. > >Handling copywrited materials in this manner limits my exposure. It also keeps >the material more in the manner of hand passing a book at a public meeting. > >Just something to think about. > >-- > >Mark. >mailto:D8Mach@yahoo.com > >MustangII.Org Locale: >http://www.bright.net/~rheschel/locator > > >Never argue with a fool, a bystander can't tell you apart. ( Mark Twain ). >When in doubt, Hit the throttle. It may not help, but it sure ends the >suspense. ( Gaz?, rec.motorcycles ). > > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. >http://im.yahoo.com > > >_____________________________________________________________ >Keep up with breaking news! Join our Hot Topics list. >http://www.topica.com/lists/breakingnews/t/12 ------------------------------------------------------------ Get your free email at the Mustang II Network http://www.mustangii.net ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2000 20:39:06 -0800 From: "Timothy Grahl" Subject: Y2k problem I figure the problem out. There is a problem with the way that the javascript function performs the date routine. As far as I can tell, the only way to fix it is to use the getFullYear() routine instead of the getYear() routine. Thanks for the help. ------------------------------------------------------------ Get your free email at the Mustang II Network http://www.mustangii.net ------------------------------ End of mustangii@topica.com digest, issue 5 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To: mustangii@topica.com Subject: Digest for mustangii@topica.com, issue 6 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 03:31:42 -0800 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Topica Digest -- 4 cyl to V-8 conversion By kmwatts@n-connect.net ------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 01:12:46 -0600 From: "kmwatts" Subject: 4 cyl to V-8 conversion Okay all you MustangII guru's....HELP!...I'm in the middle of a 4 cyl to v-8 conversion and have the engine in the car...only to find that it appears to be to far forward...would anyone happen to have the frame rail mounting specs for the v-8 and if they differ in position from the 4 cyl? It appears that the they need to move rearward about 2 maybe even 3 inches. However I am not sure...some measurements from a common reference point would be greatly appreciated...Thanks in advance...Kenneth Watts P.S. Another suggested that the rack and pinion may be the culprit,however I don't believe there was any difference between the 4 cyl and v-8 versions in that respect..since the few parts books that I have don't have a separate listing for either...just show the one. ------------------------------ End of mustangii@topica.com digest, issue 6 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To: mustangii@topica.com Subject: Digest for mustangii@topica.com, issue 7 Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 03:32:18 -0800 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Topica Digest -- Re: 4 cyl to V-8 conversion By cobra_2_76@yahoo.com Re: 4 cyl to V-8 conversion By HD7480@altavista.com 4cyl to V-8 conversion By kmwatts@n-connect.net FW: 4cyl to V-8 conversion By a-dalang@microsoft.com Mustang II rack By kmwatts@n-connect.net OT: Topica list option By a351must@premier1.net Unsubscribe By ChlLock@aol.com Re: Unsubscribe By yeknomotiz@hotmail.com Re: 4cyl to V-8 conversion By DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Re: 4cyl to V-8 conversion By HD7480@altavista.com RE: 4cyl to V-8 conversion By a351must@premier1.net Re: 4cyl to V-8 conversion By DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Classified ads bug By stangii@mustangii.net Re: 4 cyl to V-8 conversion By Gr8pmkn1969@aol.com Re: Mustang II rack By Gr8pmkn1969@aol.com Re: 4cyl to V-8 conversion By Gr8pmkn1969@aol.com Re: Mustang II rack By Cor1580@aol.com Re: 4cyl to V-8 conversion By Gr8pmkn1969@aol.com Re: 4cyl to V-8 conversion By Cobraii976@aol.com Unsuscribe By ChlLock@aol.com ------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 04:35:14 -0800 (PST) From: David Wilson Subject: Re: 4 cyl to V-8 conversion You forgot to mention which year II you were converting. 74 model year conversions I hear are very nasty to accomplish. --- kmwatts wrote: > Okay all you MustangII guru's....HELP!...I'm in the > middle of a 4 cyl to v-8 > conversion and have the engine in the car...only to > find that it appears to > be to far forward...would anyone happen to have the > frame rail mounting > specs for the v-8 and if they differ in position > from the 4 cyl? It appears > that the they need to move rearward about 2 maybe > even 3 inches. However I > am not sure...some measurements from a common > reference point would be > greatly appreciated...Thanks in advance...Kenneth > Watts > > P.S. Another suggested that the rack and pinion may > be the culprit,however I > don't believe there was any difference between the 4 > cyl and v-8 versions in > that respect..since the few parts books that I have > don't have a separate > listing for either...just show the one. > > > > > _____________________________________________________________ > Keep up with breaking news! Join our Hot Topics > list. > http://www.topica.com/lists/breakingnews/t/12 > ===== Dave Wilson Cobra_2_76@yahoo.com My Cobra II, hosted by Dan Polk http://www.northpro.net/~polk/mii/ My home page is : http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Speedway/7500/index.html alt mail: Dwilson@ftmc.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: 10 Jan 2000 05:38:19 -0800 From: Tim Chandler Subject: Re: 4 cyl to V-8 conversion On Mon, 10 January 2000, David Wilson wrote: Kenneth are you useing a II 302 oil pan? They are different from other V-8 oilpans.Also the motormount perches are different.If you need parts try Steve at rebelsales@aol.com Good Luck > > You forgot to mention which year II you were > converting. 74 model year conversions I hear are very > nasty to accomplish. > > --- kmwatts wrote: > > Okay all you MustangII guru's....HELP!...I'm in the > > middle of a 4 cyl to v-8 > > conversion and have the engine in the car...only to > > find that it appears to > > be to far forward...would anyone happen to have the > > frame rail mounting > > specs for the v-8 and if they differ in position > > from the 4 cyl? It appears > > that the they need to move rearward about 2 maybe > > even 3 inches. However I > > am not sure...some measurements from a common > > reference point would be > > greatly appreciated...Thanks in advance...Kenneth > > Watts > > > > P.S. Another suggested that the rack and pinion may > > be the culprit,however I > > don't believe there was any difference between the 4 > > cyl and v-8 versions in > > that respect..since the few parts books that I have > > don't have a separate > > listing for either...just show the one. > > > > > > > > > > > _____________________________________________________________ > > Keep up with breaking news! Join our Hot Topics > > list. > > http://www.topica.com/lists/breakingnews/t/12 > > > > > ===== > Dave Wilson > Cobra_2_76@yahoo.com > My Cobra II, hosted by Dan Polk > http://www.northpro.net/~polk/mii/ > My home page is : > http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Speedway/7500/index.html > alt mail: Dwilson@ftmc.com > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com > > > _____________________________________________________________ > Keep up with breaking news! Join our Hot Topics list. > http://www.topica.com/lists/breakingnews/t/12 ______________________________________________________________ Free Internet Access from AltaVista: Get it, share it & win! http://freeaccess.altavista.com/pika/www/initweb.jsp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 10:54:26 -0600 From: "kmwatts" Subject: 4cyl to V-8 conversion Whoops as pointed out I did forget to mention what year I was working on. I have a 1977. Also from the few pictures I have seen I have noticed that the rack and pinion is located on the front of the cross member on the v8's..however the one I have is mounted behind...Could anyone verify this for me?..If this is the case..out goes the rack and in goes the manual rack I wanted anyway...in front...hehehe...thanks in advance. Kenneth Watts ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 09:23:30 -0800 From: "Darryl Lang (Entex)" Subject: FW: 4cyl to V-8 conversion The rack on all IIs is located in front of the crossmember. Someone would have to modify a lot to get it mounted and working on the rear of the crossmember. There should be a second crossmember behind the main one that would be in the way of mounting the rack behind it. Darryl > > -----Original Message----- > > From: kmwatts [mailto:kmwatts@n-connect.net] > > Sent: Monday, January 10, 2000 8:48 AM > > To: mustangii@topica.com > > Subject: 4cyl to V-8 conversion > > > > > > Whoops as pointed out I did forget to mention what year I was > > working on. I > > have a 1977. Also from the few pictures I have seen I have > > noticed that the > > rack and pinion is located on the front of the cross member on the > > v8's..however the one I have is mounted behind...Could anyone > > verify this > > for me?..If this is the case..out goes the rack and in goes > > the manual rack > > I wanted anyway...in front...hehehe...thanks in advance. > > Kenneth Watts > > > > > > > > > > > > _____________________________________________________________ > > Keep up with breaking news! Join our Hot Topics list. > > http://www.topica.com/lists/breakingnews/t/12 > > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 13:04:59 -0600 From: "kmwatts" Subject: Mustang II rack Man it must have really been a long night...yes my rack is located forward of the crossmember..Now I have found that the frame rail enginge mounting units are different on the 4 cyl vs the V8's. Does anyone have a parts car around they would be willing to sell them out of?...Thanks in advance...Kenneth Watts ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 11:25:43 -0800 From: "Darryl Lang (Entex)" Subject: OT: Topica list option Just had to try something out...was subscribed twice so I could post from work... Turns out Topica lets you assign more than one e-mail address to your account so I only have to be subscribed once now... Cool... Darryl ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 15:45:47 EST From: ChlLock@aol.com Subject: Unsubscribe Unsubscribe ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 21:50:10 GMT From: "Joseph Zito" Subject: Re: Unsubscribe >From: ChlLock@aol.com >Reply-To: mustangii@topica.com >To: mustangii@topica.com >Subject: Unsubscribe >Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 12:46:19 -0800 > >Unsubscribe > > >_____________________________________________________________ >Keep up with breaking news! Join our Hot Topics list. >http://www.topica.com/lists/breakingnews/t/12 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 19:00:17 EST From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Subject: Re: 4cyl to V-8 conversion Do u anticipate any suspension problems with ur conversion... i have a "y" in my vin number so that means (by a book i read on understanding the vin #'s) it s a 3.2 origianlly; but now i have a v8 (the guy i bought it from swears it came with the v8; yeah right! i dislike swearers...hehe).... anyway... i looked at my rack and its....behind the oil pan's 'drop' portion so its unnecasary to get the one for the front... two other thoughts... the oil pan being unique to the stang II makes sense.... and my suspension is like jumpin up and down on a mattress when u was a kid; lots of bounce.... anyone know what springs i should get an matching shocks and from whom?.... tanks.... i like this stang II talk.... bye folks... ------------------------------ Date: 10 Jan 2000 16:07:46 -0800 From: Tim Chandler Subject: Re: 4cyl to V-8 conversion On Mon, 10 January 2000, DoUFeelThis2@aol.com wrote: > > Do u anticipate any suspension problems with ur conversion... i have a "y" in > my vin number so that means (by a book i read on understanding the vin #'s) it > s a 3.2 origianlly; but now i have a v8 (the guy i bought it from swears it > came with the v8; yeah right! i dislike swearers...hehe).... anyway... i > looked at my rack and its....behind the oil pan's 'drop' portion so its > unnecasary to get the one for the front... two other thoughts... the oil pan > being unique to the stang II makes sense.... and my suspension is like jumpin > up and down on a mattress when u was a kid; lots of bounce.... anyone know > what springs i should get an matching shocks and from whom?.... tanks.... i > like this stang II talk.... bye folks... > > > You probibly need V-8 springs and it sounds as if your shocks are shot Try Steve at rebelsales@aol.com He is a II only salvage yard HTH Tim _____________________________________________________________ > Keep up with breaking news! Join our Hot Topics list. > http://www.topica.com/lists/breakingnews/t/12 ______________________________________________________________ Free Internet Access from AltaVista: Get it, share it & win! http://freeaccess.altavista.com/pika/www/initweb.jsp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 16:21:38 -0800 From: "Darryl Lang (Entex)" Subject: RE: 4cyl to V-8 conversion For springs... Any Mustang II V8 spring, preferably from one with Competition Suspension. springs from a FOX Mustang will work but need shortened to the correct length. Aftermarket springs from http://www.racerwalsh.com will also work. If I remember right, the 4cyl spring rate isn't very much different than the V8 spring. You may need to replace you shocks...Monroe makes a real nice set of gas charged shocks for the II, way better than the Gabriels available now. Darryl -----Original Message----- Do u anticipate any suspension problems with ur conversion... i have a "y" in my vin number so that means (by a book i read on understanding the vin #'s) it s a 3.2 origianlly; but now i have a v8 (the guy i bought it from swears it came with the v8; yeah right! i dislike swearers...hehe).... anyway... i looked at my rack and its....behind the oil pan's 'drop' portion so its unnecasary to get the one for the front... two other thoughts... the oil pan being unique to the stang II makes sense.... and my suspension is like jumpin up and down on a mattress when u was a kid; lots of bounce.... anyone know what springs i should get an matching shocks and from whom?.... tanks.... i like this stang II talk.... bye folks... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 20:34:25 EST From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Subject: Re: 4cyl to V-8 conversion In a message dated 1/10/00 6:22:37 PM Central Standard Time, a351must@premier1.net writes: << http://www.racerwalsh.com >> thanks a ton.... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 20:57:33 -0800 From: "Timothy Grahl" Subject: Classified ads bug There was a small Y2K bug with the classified ads which prevented any ads from being placed. That bug has been exterminated and the ads should be working fine. Please let me know if you experience any more problems with anything on the site. Thanks, Tim stangii@mustangii.net ------------------------------------------------------------ Get your free email at the Mustang II Network http://www.mustangii.net ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 23:57:34 EST From: Gr8pmkn1969@aol.com Subject: Re: 4 cyl to V-8 conversion rack and pinion units were the same regardless of engine. what I found doing a v6 to v8 swap was that i needed to swap the motor mounts side to side. might not work for you but I thought Id let you know Eugene, 76 Stallion, 78 King Cobra ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 00:00:35 EST From: Gr8pmkn1969@aol.com Subject: Re: Mustang II rack I know of a II sitting in a junkyard that might have the v8 mounts still on it. If you want, let me know and I'll check on it. Eugene ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 00:03:20 EST From: Gr8pmkn1969@aol.com Subject: Re: 4cyl to V-8 conversion I believe that a "Y" designates a 4 cylinder. My old V-6 car eas a Z-code and my V-8 King Cobra is an F-code. Eugene ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 00:04:29 EST From: COR1580@aol.com Subject: Re: Mustang II rack Where is the II in the junkyard ?? I could use the bumper covers for it. 78 II or if anyone could heip I live in Indiana thanks in advance ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 00:06:02 EST From: Gr8pmkn1969@aol.com Subject: Re: 4cyl to V-8 conversion Dont forget that the V-8 weighs over double what a 4 banger weighs. Springs ARE very different. I dont know about using fox springs, the local Les Schwab put new V-8 springs in my car for about $200. Eugene ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 00:13:55 EST From: COBRAII976@aol.com Subject: Re: 4cyl to V-8 conversion In a message dated 1/11/00 12:06:51 AM Eastern Standard Time, Gr8pmkn1969@aol.com writes: > Dont forget that the V-8 weighs over double what a 4 banger weighs. Springs > ARE very different. I dont know about using fox springs, the local Les > Schwab > put new V-8 springs in my car for about $200. > > Eugene Well if you go look at the weight table on the 302 and the 2.3 I think your going to get a big suprise the 302 fully dressed weighs 575 pound the 2.3 and thats a turbo so it is a little lighter then our 2.3 is 470 pounds thats 105 pound difference not even close to double. here is a link check it out might as well back up the facts. http://www.sv3.com/jimh/Prycli st.doc Dave ADE MUSTANG Full service New Used NOS Mustang II parts and Restorations ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 04:57:09 EST From: ChlLock@aol.com Subject: Unsuscribe Unsubscribe ------------------------------ End of mustangii@topica.com digest, issue 7 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To: mustangii@topica.com Subject: Digest for mustangii@topica.com, issue 8 Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 09:54:01 -0800 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Topica Digest -- Re: 4cyl to V-8 conversion By DoUFeelThis2@aol.com ------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 12:53:14 EST From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Subject: Re: 4cyl to V-8 conversion Eugene... ur right about the Y; i checked with the texas dept. of motor vehicles; strange thing; mine also has an 'r' as the first lettered digit and they say no such vin is possible; i told them to look at mine casue it sure has an 'r'; they shook their heads... i looked ur 'r'... it means the unit was built in san jose cali. and i wonder now if my 'y' designating my car as a 2.3 motor could have been a mismark on a monday morning by a angry stamp cluck (er, clerk).. and maybe my former car owner was not a former car owner liar and my '76 stang II is a true factory v8. ------------------------------ End of mustangii@topica.com digest, issue 8 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To: mustangii@topica.com Subject: Digest for mustangii@topica.com, issue 9 Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 18:46:12 -0800 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Topica Digest -- Re: Mustang II rack By DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Re: 4cyl to V-8 conversion By DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Re: 4cyl to V-8 conversion By Cobraii976@aol.com Re: Mustang II rack By stangii@mustangii.net RE: Re: Mustang II rack By moone100@chapman.edu Re: Re: Mustang II rack By tgrahl@iocenter.net Re: Mustang II rack By DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Re: Mustang II rack By DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Re: Mustang II rack By tgrahl@iocenter.net Re: Mustang II rack By tgrahl@iocenter.net RE: Mustang II rack By a351must@premier1.net Re: Mustang II rack By DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Re: Mustang II rack By tgrahl@iocenter.net RE: Ghia proto By moone100@chapman.edu RE: Ghia hatchback By moone100@chapman.edu RE: one more thought on Ghia Hatchback By moone100@chapman.edu Re: Mustang II rack By rebelmust@aol.com Re: Mustang II rack By rebelmust@aol.com Re: Mustang II rack By rebelmust@aol.com Re: one more thought on Ghia Hatchback By rebelmust@aol.com Re: Mustang II Ghia By guitwild@erols.com RE: Mustang II Ghia By a351must@premier1.net Re: Mustang II Ghia By drnix@wcc.net Re: one more thought on Ghia Hatchback By KCobraII@uswest.net Re: 4cyl to V-8 conversion By RCStenic@prodigy.net Re: one more thought on Ghia Hatchback By D8Mach@yahoo.com RE: one more thought on Ghia Hatchback By tims302@hotmail.com Re: Mustang II rack By DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Re: Ghia hatchback By DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Re: Mustang II rack By Cobraii976@aol.com ------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 12:55:59 EST From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Subject: Re: Mustang II rack speaking of parts.... i need the passenger side chrome strip leading from the roof b post down to the door top.... i have a '76 stang II Ghia Fast Back... and it is getting more looks from old guys, young dudes, than any car i've owned... darn! now if i can get the young ladies to look.... hehe ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 12:58:03 EST From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Subject: Re: 4cyl to V-8 conversion In a message dated 1/10/00 11:06:44 PM Central Standard Time, Gr8pmkn1969@aol.com writes: << Les Schwab >> is that a dealer net work? i'm in the ft. worth/arlington texas area.... wonder who would have v8 capable springs? my car bounces like it thinks its at a Low Rider convention and all the Hispanics around here look like they wanna have my car for a show... haha ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 12:59:04 EST From: COBRAII976@aol.com Subject: Re: 4cyl to V-8 conversion Ok lets fix this now before it goes any farther Vin brakes down like this 6F02F 6= year in this case 76 F= where built F= Dearborn R= San Jose 02 Body style ghia coupe mach i 3 door fast back etc all have the code F engine F=302 Z= 2.8 V6 Y=2.3 4 cyl Go to MustangII.Net and under Tech Section find the online Vin Decoder that will answer the questions. Dave ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 10:41:27 -0800 From: "Timothy Grahl" Subject: Re: Mustang II rack A Ghia Fast Back, this must be a modified car. Ghia's were all notchbacks. >To: mustangii@topica.com >From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com >Subject: Re: Mustang II rack >Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 09:56:30 -0800 >Reply-To: mustangii@topica.com > >speaking of parts.... i need the passenger side chrome strip leading from the >roof b post down to the door top.... i have a '76 stang II Ghia Fast Back... >and it is getting more looks from old guys, young dudes, than any car i've >owned... darn! now if i can get the young ladies to look.... hehe > > >_____________________________________________________________ >Keep up with breaking news! Join our Hot Topics list. >http://www.topica.com/lists/breakingnews/t/12 ------------------------------------------------------------ Get your free email at the Mustang II Network http://www.mustangii.net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:09:39 -0800 (PST) From: moone100@chapman.edu Subject: RE: Re: Mustang II rack Unless he has the original protype Ford made, complete with vinyl roof. -Paul >A Ghia Fast Back, this must be a modified car. Ghia's were all notchbacks. > >>To: mustangii@topica.com >>From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com >>Subject: Re: Mustang II rack >>Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 09:56:30 -0800 >>Reply-To: mustangii@topica.com >> >>speaking of parts.... i need the passenger side chrome strip leading from the >>roof b post down to the door top.... i have a '76 stang II Ghia Fast Back... >>and it is getting more looks from old guys, young dudes, than any car i've >>owned... darn! now if i can get the young ladies to look.... hehe >> >> >>_____________________________________________________________ >>Keep up with breaking news! Join our Hot Topics list. >>http://www.topica.com/lists/breakingnews/t/12 > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------ >Get your free email at the Mustang II Network >http://www.mustangii.net > > >_____________________________________________________________ >Keep up with breaking news! Join our Hot Topics list. >http://www.topica.com/lists/breakingnews/t/12 > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 14:12:42 -0500 From: "Timothy M. Grahl" Subject: Re: Re: Mustang II rack This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0102_01BF5C3D.ECF171F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am familiar with the convertible prototypes but haven't heard about the Ghia fastback proto. How much information do you have on this. Tim -----Original Message----- From: moone100@chapman.edu To: mustangii@topica.com Date: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 2:09 PM Subject: RE: Re: Mustang II rack >Unless he has the original protype Ford made, complete with vinyl >roof. >-Paul > > >>A Ghia Fast Back, this must be a modified car. Ghia's were all notchbacks. >> >>>To: mustangii@topica.com >>>From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com >>>Subject: Re: Mustang II rack >>>Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 09:56:30 -0800 >>>Reply-To: mustangii@topica.com >>> >>>speaking of parts.... i need the passenger side chrome strip leading from the >>>roof b post down to the door top.... i have a '76 stang II Ghia Fast Back... >>>and it is getting more looks from old guys, young dudes, than any car i've >>>owned... darn! now if i can get the young ladies to look.... hehe >>> >>> >>>_____________________________________________________________ >>>Keep up with breaking news! Join our Hot Topics list. >>>http://www.topica.com/lists/breakingnews/t/12 >> >> >> >> >>------------------------------------------------------------ >>Get your free email at the Mustang II Network >>http://www.mustangii.net >> >> >>_____________________________________________________________ >>Keep up with breaking news! Join our Hot Topics list. >>http://www.topica.com/lists/breakingnews/t/12 >> >> > > >_____________________________________________________________ >Keep up with breaking news! Join our Hot Topics list. >http://www.topica.com/lists/breakingnews/t/12 > > ------=_NextPart_000_0102_01BF5C3D.ECF171F0 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; name="Timothy M. Grahl.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Timothy M. Grahl.vcf" BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Grahl;Timothy;M. FN:Timothy M. Grahl ORG:Internet Operations Center;Web Development TITLE:Web Development and E-Commerce Specialist TEL;WORK;VOICE:248.204.8806 TEL;HOME;VOICE:313.533.1280 TEL;HOME;FAX:313.537.3536 ADR;WORK;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:;;200 Galleria = Officentre=3D0D=3D0ASuite 109;Southfield;Michigan;48240;USA LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:200 Galleria = Officentre=3D0D=3D0ASuite 109=3D0D=3D0ASouthfield, Michigan = 48240=3D0D=3D =3D0AUSA ADR;HOME:;;19964 Fox;Redford;MI;48240;USA LABEL;HOME;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:19964 Fox=3D0D=3D0ARedford, MI = 48240=3D0D=3D0AUSA URL:http://www.mustangii.net URL:http://www.iocenter.net EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:tgrahl@iocenter.net REV:20000111T191242Z END:VCARD ------=_NextPart_000_0102_01BF5C3D.ECF171F0-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 14:29:16 EST From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Subject: Re: Mustang II rack my mustang II is a '76 fast back ghia... it shows ghia all over and perhaps ur mistaken here... now;a fast back (for my interpretation) is a 'lift back' or 'hatchback' wherein when you open the rear.. u open the rear window and all... and according to three books i've seen (free at the library hehe) .... a picture is shown in each of the fastback ghia... but no notch back ghias... have i seen; though i am new to the stang II ... yet .... i love this car more than any other i've owned... its really pretty; it handles superbly; it moves with any level of agression i need.... (like if someone want allow me onto the freeway i can either brake or scat.... and i scat... and not once has someone prevented my entry well out in front of them ... oh; i do not do road rage.... too protective of my baby, the ghia).... anyone else have a thought on this.. do i need to remove the Ghia labels and factory embalms..all over the car?... thangs and bye ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 14:34:23 EST From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Subject: Re: Mustang II rack mine is original ghia... it goes like this in its shape on the rear: \ \ `\ and not like this: ------| | | ______ | sorry for the poor art.... anyway... the top is my 1976 mustang II Ghia... and the bottom is a notch back which i do not have. thanks .... if mine is a false Ghia... then what is it...? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 14:38:04 -0500 From: "Timothy M. Grahl" Subject: Re: Mustang II rack This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_011E_01BF5C41.77AED780 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ghia's were manufactured as notchback or coupes. The coupes are the IIs with a trunk, not the hatchback with opening back window. A Ghia also has some sort of a Vinyl top and smaller side windows (some call them "opera" windows). Only 4 true body styles were manufactured which included 2 notchbacks, the Ghia and the coupe (hardtop) and 2 fastbacks, the 2+2 and the Mach I. The Cobra IIs and King Cobras were based on the latter. Just as a matter of information, there were no cobra IIs or Kings in the notchback or coupe format either. What is the first 5 digits of your VIN and do you have the doortag intact, (driver's side door). -----Original Message----- From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com To: mustangii@topica.com Date: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 2:28 PM Subject: Re: Mustang II rack my mustang II is a '76 fast back ghia... it shows ghia all over and perhaps ur mistaken here... now;a fast back (for my interpretation) is a 'lift back' or 'hatchback' wherein when you open the rear.. u open the rear window and all... and according to three books i've seen (free at the library hehe) .... a picture is shown in each of the fastback ghia... but no notch back ghias... have i seen; though i am new to the stang II ... yet .... i love this car more than any other i've owned... its really pretty; it handles superbly; it moves with any level of agression i need.... (like if someone want allow me onto the freeway i can either brake or scat.... and i scat... and not once has someone prevented my entry well out in front of them ... oh; i do not do road rage.... too protective of my baby, the ghia).... anyone else have a thought on this.. do i need to remove the Ghia labels and factory embalms..all over the car?... thangs and bye _____________________________________________________________ Keep up with breaking news! Join our Hot Topics list. http://www.topica.com/lists/breakingnews/t/12 ------=_NextPart_000_011E_01BF5C41.77AED780 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; name="Timothy M. Grahl.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Timothy M. Grahl.vcf" BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Grahl;Timothy;M. FN:Timothy M. Grahl ORG:Internet Operations Center;Web Development TITLE:Web Development and E-Commerce Specialist TEL;WORK;VOICE:248.204.8806 TEL;HOME;VOICE:313.533.1280 TEL;HOME;FAX:313.537.3536 ADR;WORK;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:;;200 Galleria = Officentre=3D0D=3D0ASuite 109;Southfield;Michigan;48240;USA LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:200 Galleria = Officentre=3D0D=3D0ASuite 109=3D0D=3D0ASouthfield, Michigan = 48240=3D0D=3D =3D0AUSA ADR;HOME:;;19964 Fox;Redford;MI;48240;USA LABEL;HOME;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:19964 Fox=3D0D=3D0ARedford, MI = 48240=3D0D=3D0AUSA URL:http://www.mustangii.net URL:http://www.iocenter.net EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:tgrahl@iocenter.net REV:20000111T193803Z END:VCARD ------=_NextPart_000_011E_01BF5C41.77AED780-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 14:39:38 -0500 From: "Timothy M. Grahl" Subject: Re: Mustang II rack This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0129_01BF5C41.B02F9040 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit more than likely a 2+2 or Mach I with Ghia symbols added after the fact. The VIN and doortag should tell the story. -----Original Message----- From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com To: mustangii@topica.com Date: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 2:33 PM Subject: Re: Mustang II rack mine is original ghia... it goes like this in its shape on the rear: \ \ `\ and not like this: ------| | | ______ | sorry for the poor art.... anyway... the top is my 1976 mustang II Ghia... and the bottom is a notch back which i do not have. thanks .... if mine is a false Ghia... then what is it...? _____________________________________________________________ Keep up with breaking news! Join our Hot Topics list. http://www.topica.com/lists/breakingnews/t/12 ------=_NextPart_000_0129_01BF5C41.B02F9040 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; name="Timothy M. Grahl.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Timothy M. Grahl.vcf" BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Grahl;Timothy;M. FN:Timothy M. Grahl ORG:Internet Operations Center;Web Development TITLE:Web Development and E-Commerce Specialist TEL;WORK;VOICE:248.204.8806 TEL;HOME;VOICE:313.533.1280 TEL;HOME;FAX:313.537.3536 ADR;WORK;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:;;200 Galleria = Officentre=3D0D=3D0ASuite 109;Southfield;Michigan;48240;USA LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:200 Galleria = Officentre=3D0D=3D0ASuite 109=3D0D=3D0ASouthfield, Michigan = 48240=3D0D=3D =3D0AUSA ADR;HOME:;;19964 Fox;Redford;MI;48240;USA LABEL;HOME;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:19964 Fox=3D0D=3D0ARedford, MI = 48240=3D0D=3D0AUSA URL:http://www.mustangii.net URL:http://www.iocenter.net EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:tgrahl@iocenter.net REV:20000111T193938Z END:VCARD ------=_NextPart_000_0129_01BF5C41.B02F9040-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:41:50 -0800 From: "Darryl Lang (Entex)" Subject: RE: Mustang II rack I sure wouldn't remove the emblems, but a Fastback Ghia is a new one on me too... I've had 2 Ghias, and both were coupes. I have a Coupe that says Ghia all over it, but that's because someone swapped the interior from a Ghia into it. The cars are over 20 years old and many changes may have been made by previous owners. We'd be real real real interested if you vin has "05" as the 3rd and 4th place in it. If you want to see actual pics... for Ghias: http://www.mustangii.org/gallery/coupe.shtml Fastbacks: http://www.mustangii.org/gallery/hatch.shtml Darryl -----Original Message----- my mustang II is a '76 fast back ghia... it shows ghia all over and perhaps ur mistaken here... now;a fast back (for my interpretation) is a 'lift back' or 'hatchback' wherein when you open the rear.. u open the rear window and all... and according to three books i've seen (free at the library hehe) .... a picture is shown in each of the fastback ghia... but no notch back ghias... have i seen; though i am new to the stang II ... yet .... i love this car more than any other i've owned... its really pretty; it handles superbly; it moves with any level of agression i need.... (like if someone want allow me onto the freeway i can either brake or scat.... and i scat... and not once has someone prevented my entry well out in front of them ... oh; i do not do road rage.... too protective of my baby, the ghia).... anyone else have a thought on this.. do i need to remove the Ghia labels and factory embalms..all over the car?... thangs and bye _____________________________________________________________ Keep up with breaking news! Join our Hot Topics list. http://www.topica.com/lists/breakingnews/t/12 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 14:42:48 EST From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Subject: Re: Mustang II rack i don't have much information, for i wasn't aware it was a protype... the owner.. who sold it to me is a rare car collector... that's all they do.... usually gull wing types or unusual jags (like an xke '57)... etc.... and he had this little fast back ghia sitting over in a corner and i asked if the v8 was origianlly in the car.. and he said yes, but it had had a miss and they had overhauled the motor, but it still was missing... as before... so... i asked what he wanted; i traded him even for my totally disassymbled '73 cj5 jeep and i drove away... maybe our confustion is over terms... a fast back for me is a slopping back that when the rear area is opened, the glass and all raises... the rear seat lowers as u wish.. and it has a roll over cover that retracts or u pull it to the rear and it hides ur contents.... that is a fast back... a notch back looks similar to a standard car in that it has a true trunk without access to the forward area.... it is heaver than the fastback and the fast back is i think more popular.... i hope some one knows more 'formal' discriptions on this... anyway... what i own is a fastback.. '76 mustang GHIA.... with a v8 motor and it is the finest handling car for the money one the american road... far better than the other 70's cars in its class.... yet, not the recognition it deserves... until my baby hit the rubber to the road...... thanks and see ya ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 14:44:14 -0500 From: "Timothy M. Grahl" Subject: Re: Mustang II rack This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0141_01BF5C42.548E44B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There is also the possibility that the dash has been replaced as well as the VIN. I recently had a 78 Rallye with a V-8 in which the VIN had been changed to a 74 coupe. The VIN numbers on the fender wells did not match the one on the dash. -----Original Message----- From: Darryl Lang (Entex) To: 'mustangii@topica.com' Date: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 2:41 PM Subject: RE: Mustang II rack >I sure wouldn't remove the emblems, but a Fastback Ghia is a new one on me >too... > >I've had 2 Ghias, and both were coupes. > >I have a Coupe that says Ghia all over it, but that's because someone >swapped the interior from a Ghia into it. The cars are over 20 years old >and many changes may have been made by previous owners. > >We'd be real real real interested if you vin has "05" as the 3rd and 4th >place in it. > >If you want to see actual pics... > >for Ghias: >http://www.mustangii.org/gallery/coupe.shtml > >Fastbacks: >http://www.mustangii.org/gallery/hatch.shtml > >Darryl > >-----Original Message----- >my mustang II is a '76 fast back ghia... it shows ghia all over and perhaps >ur mistaken here... now;a fast back (for my interpretation) is a 'lift back' > >or 'hatchback' wherein when you open the rear.. u open the rear window and >all... and according to three books i've seen (free at the library hehe) >.... >a picture is shown in each of the fastback ghia... but no notch back >ghias... have i seen; though i am new to the stang II ... yet .... i love >this car more than any other i've owned... its really pretty; it handles >superbly; it moves with any level of agression i need.... (like if someone >want allow me onto the freeway i can either brake or scat.... and i scat... >and not once has someone prevented my entry well out in front of them ... >oh; >i do not do road rage.... too protective of my baby, the ghia).... anyone >else have a thought on this.. do i need to remove the Ghia labels and >factory >embalms..all over the car?... thangs and bye > > >_____________________________________________________________ >Keep up with breaking news! Join our Hot Topics list. >http://www.topica.com/lists/breakingnews/t/12 > > >_____________________________________________________________ >Keep up with breaking news! Join our Hot Topics list. >http://www.topica.com/lists/breakingnews/t/12 > ------=_NextPart_000_0141_01BF5C42.548E44B0 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; name="Timothy M. Grahl.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Timothy M. Grahl.vcf" BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Grahl;Timothy;M. FN:Timothy M. 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Paul >I am familiar with the convertible prototypes but haven't heard about the >Ghia fastback proto. How much information do you have on this. > >Tim > >-----Original Message----- >From: moone100@chapman.edu >To: mustangii@topica.com >Date: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 2:09 PM >Subject: RE: Re: Mustang II rack > > >>Unless he has the original protype Ford made, complete with vinyl >>roof. >>-Paul >> >> >>>A Ghia Fast Back, this must be a modified car. Ghia's were all >notchbacks. >>> >>>>To: mustangii@topica.com >>>>From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com >>>>Subject: Re: Mustang II rack >>>>Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 09:56:30 -0800 >>>>Reply-To: mustangii@topica.com >>>> >>>>speaking of parts.... i need the passenger side chrome strip leading from >the >>>>roof b post down to the door top.... i have a '76 stang II Ghia Fast >Back... >>>>and it is getting more looks from old guys, young dudes, than any car >i've >>>>owned... darn! now if i can get the young ladies to look.... hehe >>>> >>>> >>>>_____________________________________________________________ >>>>Keep up with breaking news! Join our Hot Topics list. >>>>http://www.topica.com/lists/breakingnews/t/12 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>------------------------------------------------------------ >>>Get your free email at the Mustang II Network >>>http://www.mustangii.net >>> >>> >>>_____________________________________________________________ >>>Keep up with breaking news! Join our Hot Topics list. >>>http://www.topica.com/lists/breakingnews/t/12 >>> >>> >> >> >>_____________________________________________________________ >>Keep up with breaking news! Join our Hot Topics list. >>http://www.topica.com/lists/breakingnews/t/12 >> >> > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 12:50:37 -0800 (PST) From: moone100@chapman.edu Subject: RE: Ghia hatchback I have read everyone's comments and to add to the confusion, let me say this. It is possible that a dealer could have tranformed a hatchback. While this may seem far-fetched, (to add badges and change the interior)some dealers may have gone to such extremes. Here in So. Cal. Galpin Ford ( one of the country's largest) took car's and "Galpinized" them in the 70's. This consisted of everything from wild paint jobs to creating their own packages. Just food for thought. Paul >i don't have much information, for i wasn't aware it was a protype... the >owner.. who sold it to me is a rare car collector... that's all they do.... >usually gull wing types or unusual jags (like an xke '57)... etc.... and he >had this little fast back ghia sitting over in a corner and i asked if the v8 >was origianlly in the car.. and he said yes, but it had had a miss and they >had overhauled the motor, but it still was missing... as before... so... i >asked what he wanted; i traded him even for my totally disassymbled '73 cj5 >jeep and i drove away... maybe our confustion is over terms... a fast back >for me is a slopping back that when the rear area is opened, the glass and >all raises... the rear seat lowers as u wish.. and it has a roll over cover >that retracts or u pull it to the rear and it hides ur contents.... that is a >fast back... a notch back looks similar to a standard car in that it has a >true trunk without access to the forward area.... it is heaver than the >fastback and the fast back is i think more popular.... i hope some one >knows more 'formal' discriptions on this... anyway... what i own is a >fastback.. '76 mustang GHIA.... with a v8 motor and it is the finest handling >car for the money one the american road... far better than the other 70's >cars in its class.... yet, not the recognition it deserves... until my baby >hit the rubber to the road...... thanks and see ya > > >_____________________________________________________________ >Keep up with breaking news! Join our Hot Topics list. >http://www.topica.com/lists/breakingnews/t/12 > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 12:56:31 -0800 (PST) From: moone100@chapman.edu Subject: RE: one more thought on Ghia Hatchback The description of a rear cargo area cover confuses me. I didn't think these appeared on Mustangs until 1979 Fox versions. Any thoughts from the group? I believe the Ghia designation was carried through 1980. Paul >i don't have much information, for i wasn't aware it was a protype... the >owner.. who sold it to me is a rare car collector... that's all they do.... >usually gull wing types or unusual jags (like an xke '57)... etc.... and he >had this little fast back ghia sitting over in a corner and i asked if the v8 >was origianlly in the car.. and he said yes, but it had had a miss and they >had overhauled the motor, but it still was missing... as before... so... i >asked what he wanted; i traded him even for my totally disassymbled '73 cj5 >jeep and i drove away... maybe our confustion is over terms... a fast back >for me is a slopping back that when the rear area is opened, the glass and >all raises... the rear seat lowers as u wish.. and it has a roll over cover >that retracts or u pull it to the rear and it hides ur contents.... that is a >fast back... a notch back looks similar to a standard car in that it has a >true trunk without access to the forward area.... it is heaver than the >fastback and the fast back is i think more popular.... i hope some one >knows more 'formal' discriptions on this... anyway... what i own is a >fastback.. '76 mustang GHIA.... with a v8 motor and it is the finest handling >car for the money one the american road... far better than the other 70's >cars in its class.... yet, not the recognition it deserves... until my baby >hit the rubber to the road...... thanks and see ya > > >_____________________________________________________________ >Keep up with breaking news! Join our Hot Topics list. >http://www.topica.com/lists/breakingnews/t/12 > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 16:30:32 EST From: REBELMUST@aol.com Subject: Re: Mustang II rack yes we have v8 motor mount to frame rail brackets,specify year ,50.00 a pair,shipping is 10.00 thanks,steve.rebel mustang,e-mail is rebelmust@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:01:26 EST From: REBELMUST@aol.com Subject: Re: Mustang II rack regarding bumper skins i currently have several great used ones,100.00 each plus shipping,specify bumper guards or not and what kind of trim you have,have the motor mounts too,thanks Steve at rebel mustang ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:09:22 EST From: REBELMUST@aol.com Subject: Re: Mustang II rack i have the chrome strip you need,great used cond. 20.00 plus shipping,on getting looks from the ladies while driving your mustang ii try rolling a pair of your underwear in the window so it hangs outside the car and flaps in the wind when you are driving, i find this gets plenty of looks from all types of lades young and old,good luck . thanks,Steve at rebel mustang ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:17:54 EST From: REBELMUST@aol.com Subject: Re: one more thought on Ghia Hatchback does this ghia fastback have padded rear inner quarters? like the coupe does? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:27:54 -0500 From: LYNETTE SHAW Subject: Re: Mustang II Ghia I also have a Mustang II hatchback Ghia. It is a '78 with T-tops and the 2.3 l. It has a vinyl strip across the top and the smaller quarter panel windows (they're actually the same size but the vinyl covers the front section of them making them look smaller.) I am putting the King Cobra parts on it that I got from when my former roomate totalled his '78 and gave it an undeserving trip to the scrapyard. I also have the large input spline C-4 mated up to the 2.3 l. It shifts awesomely at around 6500 and the 4 cyl. really comes to life when you wind it up. Unfortunately the flexplate shears after a while. I must have the wrong torque converter, or some alignment problem with the converter at the crank. The original converter only had 3 attachment bolts to the flexplate and I needed 4 for the 2.3 l. flexplate so the local tranny shop sold me this converter which works great except for this problem. It was tough finding one that would bolt up to the 2.3 AND accepted the large input shaft. Any thoughts on this would greatly help. I am also currently installing an Electromotive Inc.TEC-II which is a crank- triggered ignition and fuel injection unit. The next step is to turbocharge a 2.3. Can anyone tell me if the intake and exhaust manifolds from a turbo 2.3 will fit on a normally aspirated 2.3 and what are the disadvantages of turbocharging the normally aspirated 2.3. (Of course the compression ratio will probably have to be changed.) This car has been totally stripped and is just about better than new, but I still need some new door hinge pins and bushings which I can't seem to find. I would also like to find some side and rear window louvres. If anyone can help I would certainly appreciate it. Thanks, Bill. "Timothy M. Grahl" wrote: > There is also the possibility that the dash has been replaced as well as the > VIN. I recently had a 78 Rallye with a V-8 in which the VIN had been > changed to a 74 coupe. The VIN numbers on the fender wells did not match > the one on the dash. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Darryl Lang (Entex) > To: 'mustangii@topica.com' > Date: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 2:41 PM > Subject: RE: Mustang II rack > > >I sure wouldn't remove the emblems, but a Fastback Ghia is a new one on me > >too... > > > >I've had 2 Ghias, and both were coupes. > > > >I have a Coupe that says Ghia all over it, but that's because someone > >swapped the interior from a Ghia into it. The cars are over 20 years old > >and many changes may have been made by previous owners. > > > >We'd be real real real interested if you vin has "05" as the 3rd and 4th > >place in it. > > > >If you want to see actual pics... > > > >for Ghias: > >http://www.mustangii.org/gallery/coupe.shtml > > > >Fastbacks: > >http://www.mustangii.org/gallery/hatch.shtml > > > >Darryl > > > >-----Original Message----- > >my mustang II is a '76 fast back ghia... it shows ghia all over and perhaps > >ur mistaken here... now;a fast back (for my interpretation) is a 'lift > back' > > > >or 'hatchback' wherein when you open the rear.. u open the rear window and > >all... and according to three books i've seen (free at the library hehe) > >.... > >a picture is shown in each of the fastback ghia... but no notch back > >ghias... have i seen; though i am new to the stang II ... yet .... i love > >this car more than any other i've owned... its really pretty; it handles > >superbly; it moves with any level of agression i need.... (like if someone > >want allow me onto the freeway i can either brake or scat.... and i scat... > >and not once has someone prevented my entry well out in front of them ... > >oh; > >i do not do road rage.... too protective of my baby, the ghia).... anyone > >else have a thought on this.. do i need to remove the Ghia labels and > >factory > >embalms..all over the car?... thangs and bye > > > > > >_____________________________________________________________ > >Keep up with breaking news! Join our Hot Topics list. > >http://www.topica.com/lists/breakingnews/t/12 > > > > > >_____________________________________________________________ > >Keep up with breaking news! Join our Hot Topics list. > >http://www.topica.com/lists/breakingnews/t/12 > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 14:47:48 -0800 From: "Darryl Lang (Entex)" Subject: RE: Mustang II Ghia All T-Top IIs came with the vinyl strip across the roof, except for T-Top Cobras. It's called a Targa band. The intake manifold from an EFI turbo are absolutely identical to the intake on an EFI N/A motor. The heads are way different between a '78 2.3L and the EFI 2.3L. The older 2.3L has oval port heads and the newer 2.3L has D-Port heads (or visa-versa). Swapping a complete turbo motor in place of an N/A motor is the recommended method. The turbo motor has a drilled and tapped boss for the turbo's oil return line. You'd also have all the correct mounting brackets with the turbo motor. The turbo motor is a high nickel content block with forged TRW pistons and the older style combustion chamber. The N/A EFI motors have a heart shaped combustion chamber. There's some pictures of a 2.3L Turbo in a '78 T-Top on my web page: http://fp.premier1.net/a351must http://fp.premier1.net/a351must/78TTop/78ttop.htm Darryl Lang '74 Coupe 351W C4 '77 Mach 1 5.0L HO 4spd '78 T-Top 2.3L EFI Turbo 5spd -----Original Message----- I also have a Mustang II hatchback Ghia. It is a '78 with T-tops and the 2.3 l. It has a vinyl strip across the top and the smaller quarter panel windows (they're actually the same size but the vinyl covers the front section of them making them look smaller.) I am putting the King Cobra parts on it that I got from when my former roomate totalled his '78 and gave it an undeserving trip to the scrapyard. I also have the large input spline C-4 mated up to the 2.3 l. It shifts awesomely at around 6500 and the 4 cyl. really comes to life when you wind it up. Unfortunately the flexplate shears after a while. I must have the wrong torque converter, or some alignment problem with the converter at the crank. The original converter only had 3 attachment bolts to the flexplate and I needed 4 for the 2.3 l. flexplate so the local tranny shop sold me this converter which works great except for this problem. It was tough finding one that would bolt up to the 2.3 AND accepted the large input shaft. Any thoughts on this would greatly help. I am also currently installing an Electromotive Inc.TEC-II which is a crank- triggered ignition and fuel injection unit. The next step is to turbocharge a 2.3. Can anyone tell me if the intake and exhaust manifolds from a turbo 2.3 will fit on a normally aspirated 2.3 and what are the disadvantages of turbocharging the normally aspirated 2.3. (Of course the compression ratio will probably have to be changed.) This car has been totally stripped and is just about better than new, but I still need some new door hinge pins and bushings which I can't seem to find. I would also like to find some side and rear window louvres. If anyone can help I would certainly appreciate it. Thanks, Bill. "Timothy M. Grahl" wrote: > There is also the possibility that the dash has been replaced as well as the > VIN. I recently had a 78 Rallye with a V-8 in which the VIN had been > changed to a 74 coupe. The VIN numbers on the fender wells did not match > the one on the dash. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Darryl Lang (Entex) > To: 'mustangii@topica.com' > Date: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 2:41 PM > Subject: RE: Mustang II rack > > >I sure wouldn't remove the emblems, but a Fastback Ghia is a new one on me > >too... > > > >I've had 2 Ghias, and both were coupes. > > > >I have a Coupe that says Ghia all over it, but that's because someone > >swapped the interior from a Ghia into it. The cars are over 20 years old > >and many changes may have been made by previous owners. > > > >We'd be real real real interested if you vin has "05" as the 3rd and 4th > >place in it. > > > >If you want to see actual pics... > > > >for Ghias: > >http://www.mustangii.org/gallery/coupe.shtml > > > >Fastbacks: > >http://www.mustangii.org/gallery/hatch.shtml > > > >Darryl > > > >-----Original Message----- > >my mustang II is a '76 fast back ghia... it shows ghia all over and perhaps > >ur mistaken here... now;a fast back (for my interpretation) is a 'lift > back' > > > >or 'hatchback' wherein when you open the rear.. u open the rear window and > >all... and according to three books i've seen (free at the library hehe) > >.... > >a picture is shown in each of the fastback ghia... but no notch back > >ghias... have i seen; though i am new to the stang II ... yet .... i love > >this car more than any other i've owned... its really pretty; it handles > >superbly; it moves with any level of agression i need.... (like if someone > >want allow me onto the freeway i can either brake or scat.... and i scat... > >and not once has someone prevented my entry well out in front of them ... > >oh; > >i do not do road rage.... too protective of my baby, the ghia).... anyone > >else have a thought on this.. do i need to remove the Ghia labels and > >factory > >embalms..all over the car?... thangs and bye > > > > > >_____________________________________________________________ > >Keep up with breaking news! Join our Hot Topics list. > >http://www.topica.com/lists/breakingnews/t/12 > > > > > >_____________________________________________________________ > >Keep up with breaking news! Join our Hot Topics list. > >http://www.topica.com/lists/breakingnews/t/12 > > _____________________________________________________________ Keep up with breaking news! Join our Hot Topics list. http://www.topica.com/lists/breakingnews/t/12 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:59:43 -0600 From: Donnie Nix Subject: Re: Mustang II Ghia --------------A6048E0D711543C83A3B1814 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry about the size of these pictures. This is the first time I have ever emailed a picture, but I felt it was necessary when discussing this topic. This is not a custom butcher job. This picture came out of "Consumer Guide, Mustang: America's Favorite Pony Car." It can be found on page 64 with the following caption (the date of the fastback ghia is 1-25-74): "A Ghia 'Sport' fastback (top) was considered, but never produced, probably because the sporty and luxery concepts were at odds with one another. The big news for 1975 was the re-emergence of a V-8 option, a 302-cid unit and, for the Ghia, a $151 Silver Luxery Group (center). Even the base models (bottom) boasted solid-state ignition and steel belted radial tires." It is possible that someone could have done an aftermarket conversion, or this one could have escaped. Bobby [Image] --------------A6048E0D711543C83A3B1814 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="------------EE37626ED56A83922C7B1BFD" --------------EE37626ED56A83922C7B1BFD Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry about the size of these pictures. This is the first time I have ever emailed a picture, but I felt it was necessary when discussing this topic. This is not a custom butcher job. This picture came out of "Consumer Guide, Mustang: America's Favorite Pony Car." It can be found on page 64 with the following caption (the date of the fastback ghia is 1-25-74): "A Ghia 'Sport' fastback (top) was considered, but never produced, probably because the sporty and luxery concepts were at odds with one another. The big news for 1975 was the re-emergence of a V-8 option, a 302-cid unit and, for the Ghia, a $151 Silver Luxery Group (center). Even the base models (bottom) boasted solid-state ignition and steel belted radial tires." It is possible that someone could have done an aftermarket conversion, or this one could have escaped. Bobby ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 17:27:19 -0700 From: Mark Ward Subject: Re: one more thought on Ghia Hatchback moone100@chapman.edu wrote: > > The description of a rear cargo area cover confuses me. I didn't > think these appeared on Mustangs until 1979 Fox versions. > Any thoughts from the group? I believe the Ghia designation > was carried through 1980. > Paul > That's a good point. Ford did make a 79-81 Ghia hatchback. Also, the 3.2 liter engine size that was mentioned earlier. If that wasn't a typo meaning 2.3 4-cyl, it could be the straight six that was used in the early fox cars. Just a thought. -- Mark Ward KCobraII@uswest.net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 19:46:27 -0600 From: "Ralph C Stenic" Subject: Re: 4cyl to V-8 conversion ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 11:58 AM Subject: Re: 4cyl to V-8 conversion > In a message dated 1/10/00 11:06:44 PM Central Standard Time, > Gr8pmkn1969@aol.com writes: > > << Les Schwab >> > is that a dealer net work? i'm in the ft. worth/arlington texas area.... > wonder who would have v8 capable springs? my car bounces like it thinks its > at a Low Rider convention and all the Hispanics around here look like they > wanna have my car for a show... haha > > > ____ Call Performance Suspension Technology ( PST ). you can find there number in any hot rod mag or mustang mags. _________________________________________________________ > Keep up with breaking news! Join our Hot Topics list. > http://www.topica.com/lists/breakingnews/t/12 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 19:43:47 -0500 From: "Mark." Subject: Re: one more thought on Ghia Hatchback moone100@chapman.edu wrote: > The description of a rear cargo area cover confuses me. I didn't > think these appeared on Mustangs until 1979 Fox versions. > Any thoughts from the group? I believe the Ghia designation > was carried through 1980. That's how long the Italians could hang with a FoxStang. That's infinitely longer than me. For me, It took one look .... -- Mark. mailto:D8Mach@yahoo.com MustangII.Org Locale: http://www.bright.net/~rheschel/locator Never argue with a fool, a bystander can't tell you apart. ( Mark Twain ). When in doubt, Hit the throttle. It may not help, but it sure ends the suspense. ( Gaz?, rec.motorcycles ). __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 00:48:16 GMT From: "tim thompson" Subject: RE: one more thought on Ghia Hatchback Doufeelthis2?...all i feel is my leg being severely pulled. Rear-mounted rack, fastback ghia, cargo cover......... Tim >From: moone100@chapman.edu >Reply-To: mustangii@topica.com >To: mustangii@topica.com >Subject: RE: one more thought on Ghia Hatchback >Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 12:57:36 -0800 > >The description of a rear cargo area cover confuses me. I didn't >think these appeared on Mustangs until 1979 Fox versions. >Any thoughts from the group? I believe the Ghia designation >was carried through 1980. >Paul > > > >i don't have much information, for i wasn't aware it was a protype... the > >owner.. who sold it to me is a rare car collector... that's all they >do.... > >usually gull wing types or unusual jags (like an xke '57)... etc.... and >he > >had this little fast back ghia sitting over in a corner and i asked if >the v8 > >was origianlly in the car.. and he said yes, but it had had a miss and >they > >had overhauled the motor, but it still was missing... as before... so... >i > >asked what he wanted; i traded him even for my totally disassymbled '73 >cj5 > >jeep and i drove away... maybe our confustion is over terms... a fast >back > >for me is a slopping back that when the rear area is opened, the glass >and > >all raises... the rear seat lowers as u wish.. and it has a roll over >cover > >that retracts or u pull it to the rear and it hides ur contents.... that >is a > >fast back... a notch back looks similar to a standard car in that it >has a > >true trunk without access to the forward area.... it is heaver than the > >fastback and the fast back is i think more popular.... i hope some one > >knows more 'formal' discriptions on this... anyway... what i own is a > >fastback.. '76 mustang GHIA.... with a v8 motor and it is the finest >handling > >car for the money one the american road... far better than the other 70's > >cars in its class.... yet, not the recognition it deserves... until my >baby > >hit the rubber to the road...... thanks and see ya > > > > > >_____________________________________________________________ > >Keep up with breaking news! Join our Hot Topics list. > >http://www.topica.com/lists/breakingnews/t/12 > > > > > > >_____________________________________________________________ >Keep up with breaking news! Join our Hot Topics list. >http://www.topica.com/lists/breakingnews/t/12 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 21:28:33 EST From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Subject: Re: Mustang II rack my 1976 'fastback' first 6 digits are: 6R04Y1 the additional numbers apparently are the run sequence of that production year... so mine was the 72,386 made that year.... a friend said that may have been so late in the production year that it was a protype for 1977.... don't have a clue if he's right... it does have a 302 V8 and i know the 'Y' digit inplys a 3.2 four cyl. but as for being a ghia... i wanna know ... if its a prototype then nice... if not; what is it? no door numbers exist ... some rat peeled them off.... hmmmm rat? probably a 409? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 21:40:01 EST From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Subject: Re: Ghia hatchback thanks for that info... it may be correct for this one; 1. this one was made in california... 2. this one's original owner... an older man who swore it came with a V8... and.. 3. The antique dealer where i bought it says he wouldn't swap a motor out... too much expense and trouble.. he has about 50 cars at a time and they don't have time for american or japanese cars.. so he merely bought this one (he says) as a token of friendship to the origianl owner, his friend... its only been registered to one owner..... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 21:39:21 EST From: COBRAII976@aol.com Subject: Re: Mustang II rack In a message dated 1/11/00 9:29:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, DoUFeelThis2@aol.com writes: Ok th Car decodes as thie 6= 1976 R= San Jose Assembly plant 04= 2 door ghia Y 140 Cid 2.3 liter 2V 4 cyl engine So I would have to say that your car has been built from several cars or stolen or the vin has been swapped there is a secret vin on the car under the fender time to retrive it. Dave > my 1976 'fastback' first 6 digits are: 6R04Y1 the additional numbers > apparently are the run sequence of that production year... so mine was the > 72,386 made that year.... a friend said that may have been so late in the > production year that it was a protype for 1977.... don't have a clue if he' > s > right... it does have a 302 V8 and i know the 'Y' digit inplys a 3.2 four > cyl. but as for being a ghia... i wanna know ... if its a prototype then > nice... if not; what is it? no door numbers exist ... some rat peeled them > off.... hmmmm rat? probably a 409? ------------------------------ End of mustangii@topica.com digest, issue 9 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To: mustangii@topica.com Subject: Digest for mustangii@topica.com, issue 10 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 03:32:00 -0800 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Topica Digest -- Re: one more thought on Ghia Hatchback By DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Re: Mustang II rack By drnix@wcc.net Re: Mustang II rack By Cobraii976@aol.com Re: Mustang II rack By drnix@wcc.net By mm@handtech.com Re: 4cyl to V-8 conversion By Gr8pmkn1969@aol.com Ghia Fastback? By Gr8pmkn1969@aol.com Re: Mustang II rack By Gr8pmkn1969@aol.com 2.3 turbo By Gr8pmkn1969@aol.com Re: Mustang II rack By Gr8pmkn1969@aol.com Re: Mustang II rack By DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Re: one more thought on Ghia Hatchback By DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Re: Mustang II Ghia By DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Re: Mustang II Ghia By DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Re: Mustang II Ghia By DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Re: 4cyl to V-8 conversion By DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Re: one more thought on Ghia Hatchback By DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Re: one more thought on Ghia Hatchback By DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Re: one more thought on Ghia Hatchback By DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Re: 4cyl to V-8 conversion By DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Re: Mustang II rack By DoUFeelThis2@aol.com ------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 21:45:34 EST From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Subject: Re: one more thought on Ghia Hatchback mine has a cover and its vin says 6 for '76... its red... and made of vinal and rolls back or forward in retrival... (forward being 'back' to the latch ... )hmmmmm.. first time in history forward and back are the same?.. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 20:46:02 -0600 From: Donnie Nix Subject: Re: Mustang II rack I'd have to say something is really messed up about that VIN #, because I doubt it can be a prototype. The only picture of a prtotype GHIA Fastback I have seen was made in 1974. By the way did anyone get that picture I sent? Cobraii976@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 1/11/00 9:29:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, > DoUFeelThis2@aol.com writes: > Ok th Car decodes as thie > 6= 1976 > R= San Jose Assembly plant > 04= 2 door ghia > Y 140 Cid 2.3 liter 2V 4 cyl engine > So I would have to say that your car has been built from several cars or > stolen or the vin has been swapped there is a secret vin on the car under the > fender time to retrive it. > Dave > > my 1976 'fastback' first 6 digits are: 6R04Y1 the additional numbers > > apparently are the run sequence of that production year... so mine was the > > 72,386 made that year.... a friend said that may have been so late in the > > production year that it was a protype for 1977.... don't have a clue if > he' > > s > > right... it does have a 302 V8 and i know the 'Y' digit inplys a 3.2 four > > cyl. but as for being a ghia... i wanna know ... if its a prototype then > > nice... if not; what is it? no door numbers exist ... some rat peeled > them > > off.... hmmmm rat? probably a 409? > > _____________________________________________________________ > Keep up with breaking news! Join our Hot Topics list. > http://www.topica.com/lists/breakingnews/t/12 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 21:49:46 EST From: COBRAII976@aol.com Subject: Re: Mustang II rack I got the pic and I have to say I hated it the first time I saw it and I still do. Dave ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 20:51:57 -0600 From: Donnie Nix Subject: Re: Mustang II rack I didn't care for it when I first saw it either, but it was interesting knowing that Ford actually went that far in considering it. Cobraii976@aol.com wrote: > I got the pic and I have to say I hated it the first time I saw it and I > still do. > Dave > > _____________________________________________________________ > Keep up with breaking news! Join our Hot Topics list. > http://www.topica.com/lists/breakingnews/t/12 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 22:40:08 -0800 From: "Mike A Iannelli" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01BF5C84.D00E4DA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Please take me off the E-mail list ,Thank You Mike=20 ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01BF5C84.D00E4DA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Please take me off the E-mail list = ,Thank You Mike=20 ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01BF5C84.D00E4DA0-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 23:03:49 EST From: Gr8pmkn1969@aol.com Subject: Re: 4cyl to V-8 conversion sorry, les schwab is primarily on the west coast. any good suspension shop should be able to fix up a set of springs. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 23:08:29 EST From: Gr8pmkn1969@aol.com Subject: Ghia Fastback? as far as I am aware, the ghia was a fancy version of the II coupe. options for the hatchback were, depending on year, Mach 1, Stallion, Cobra II, King Cobra, Rallye, MPG, and base. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 23:09:49 EST From: Gr8pmkn1969@aol.com Subject: Re: Mustang II rack sorry, did you say your car has a vinyl top or not? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 23:17:44 EST From: Gr8pmkn1969@aol.com Subject: 2.3 turbo I think the cylinder head is almost identical on the carbureted and turbo 2.3's. Exhaust should bolt on. However I would try to find a turbo manifold anyway. It will probably flow better. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 23:23:09 EST From: Gr8pmkn1969@aol.com Subject: Re: Mustang II rack sorry drnix, no pix ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 01:57:32 EST From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Subject: Re: Mustang II rack steve is there a way for me to order the chrome strip thru the regualar mail... im not allowed to order anything on the net.... but $20.00 sounds fair so... send me ur 800 # so we can talk. k? thanks ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 02:11:07 EST From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Subject: Re: one more thought on Ghia Hatchback i sent it to our mechanic yesterday before ur email.... i don't recall so i'll go visit and see..... he's about 40 miles away and i'll have to get someone to take me; but i'm curious enough to find out for u.... by the way... i talked to him late today and he found two problems....1. (the v8 is missing on #5 and #7 cylenders on his tach tester).... so implys a vaccum leak; and 2. ... the exhaust pipe at the rear, 'sucks' as well as thursts out. .. (which implys when the head's were milled; the the push rods were not machined down properly and left at the same height or; the meachanic who reassembled the motor, failed to turn them down properly, thus leaving two cylenders not showing a register... they are hydralic lifters)...... so.... today, when the engine is cold and not a chance to burning his hands... he'll perform a proper vaccum leak test.... and then tell me the cost of fixing it.... oh..... does anyone know if the aluminum plenum between the carb. and the intake manifold is essential? this is a '76 stangII so does the epa require it?????... i know the hot rodders like to use these to keep the gases cooler for more 'scat' but... i think part of my problem relates to this and it would make it easer to put on a good gasket there.... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 02:22:01 EST From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Subject: Re: Mustang II Ghia In a message dated 1/11/00 4:33:31 PM Central Standard Time, guitwild@erols.com writes: << up. Unfortunately the flexplate shears after a while. I must have the wrong torque converter, or some alignment problem with the converter at the crank. The original converter only had 3 attachment bolts to the flexplate and I needed 4 for the 2.3 l. >> i am looking for a source for u; there is a outfit ... conington somethig or other.... i'll find their catolog and get u there number... anyway.. what they do is work their magic on the 2.3.. do u know they have parts that will bring ur baby up to 500 hp? yep. true... wipe a carvette's dipper... they do the circle track circuit cars and for a long time now the motor of choice has beeen... guess? yep, the 2.3 soooooo getting to ur question; they do and ........i repeat do... have the parts u need and they do not recommend turbo... but they offer the install kit complete.... but u choose the turbo itself... they have a abhorance to the computer needs vs. carb. needs too so they don't go for fuel injection much either.. and they win the top dollars every year so they know what they are talking about... if i was to blow the v8, and i found my car really had a 2.3 at stock.. i'd put in a 2.3 again and smile as i blased by some v8'rs... but i'd have a $1200.00 head; headers; stroked motor... etc... so... costs... not far apart...for a beef up... but.. ur 2.3 is a fine piece no matter what anyone might tell u... thanks for everything... this is a great web site... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 02:28:46 EST From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Subject: Re: Mustang II Ghia This guy is smart; knows what he's talking about... i once was suduced by the dark side of the force and got excited about the little Escort XLT (looked close to a mustang II) and it had a turbo 2.3; motor lasted about half as long as a non-turbo... so to the junk yard.. i got a t-bird 2.3 with turbo... and wow... seemed even faster; lasted 1/3 as long as a non-turbo -- why get a turbo when u can convert to a different cam; better head and jump up ur hp... and have no lag; no sag; and no drag? hmmmm... well i had to end it in a rhyme didn't i? bye... and take care... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 02:32:34 EST From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Subject: Re: Mustang II Ghia my '76 does not look like that side view of ur fast back ghia... it has the ghia interior with emblems, etc... and it has a fast back looking like the cobra's.... it has v8 emblems on both of the front fenders sides.. but its vin has the 'y' designation.. so looks more and more like a retrofit.. but so well done.. wow... thanks.. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 02:34:33 EST From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Subject: Re: 4cyl to V-8 conversion Thanks for that.... good tip... i appreciate it and i'm doing it.... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 02:36:12 EST From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Subject: Re: one more thought on Ghia Hatchback Well.... when a pretty girl looks over ur way from an suv.. and looking down on u in ur mustang II... here is what to do... my daddy told me... when in doubt... whip it out....!!!! hahaha ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 02:42:45 EST From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Subject: Re: one more thought on Ghia Hatchback p.s. the rear seats let down to a flat position too... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 02:42:09 EST From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Subject: Re: one more thought on Ghia Hatchback i have pictures.... mike asked me to send one of the outside... so i'll see about sending u some of the back area with the window hatch raised.... and about ur leg.. hmmmm i don't do legs... uh.. are u a girl... i do, do girls.... legs... gosh... i don't pull them thou... is that a new kinky technique no one has told me about.... do girls like that? do u take prescription drugs? frankly.. i don't like someone suggesting i'd 'pull their let'... in texas that equals lying.. i'm no liar.. what i say here i only know of by sight... i'm not now thinking this car is a ghia becasue of a pic i just saw... but it says ghia inside; embelms; interior... etc... and it does have what i said.. a roller at the rear (over the wheel area in the rear), and it does unroll and lock back at the very back and it does wind up automaticly... if i let it go free.... and it is vynal.... oh; and it is red! thanks.... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 02:48:17 EST From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Subject: Re: 4cyl to V-8 conversion any suspension (they all claim they're good) will not know the mustang II i have found... they offer whatever they sell and do not give correct advice i'm finding... i think a view to the sources on this page are ur best advice... i'm going with monroe shocks... and probably factory springs from ford..... low riding sucs.... thanks.. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 02:53:34 EST From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Subject: Re: Mustang II rack no vynil top.... thanks... i really am glad it doesn't have one... but more and more i'm thinking the interior was completely changed out including the dash face and and console and all.... also.. haha... i'm beginning to think of buying a cobra and selling this car so there wont be any controversy.. oh.. the cobra... does $800.00 sound fair? has v8; has run in aover 15 years but in very good condition; no body work ever done; no rust; interior looks like new; wheels original; think its a '77 or '79 but the hood has the raised thingy.. and the front area has fog lights..... etc.... so.... should i? ------------------------------ End of mustangii@topica.com digest, issue 10 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 38 of 46 From: mustangii@topica.com Save Address -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To: mustangii@topica.com Subject: Digest for mustangii@topica.com, issue 11 Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 03:33:14 -0800 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Topica Digest -- RE: Re: Mustang II rack By moone100@chapman.edu Re: Mustang II rack By Gr8pmkn1969@aol.com Re: 4cyl to V-8 conversion By rebelmust@aol.com Re: Mustang II rack By rebelmust@aol.com Re: 4cyl to V-8 conversion By DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Re: 4cyl to V-8 conversion By rebelmust@aol.com Re: 4cyl to V-8 conversion By Cobraii976@aol.com Re: 4cyl to V-8 conversion By tims302@hotmail.com Re: 4cyl to V-8 conversion By Cobraii976@aol.com RE: this listserve By moone100@chapman.edu Re: this listserve By Cobraii976@aol.com Re: 4cyl to V-8 conversion By rebelmust@aol.com Re: this listserve By rebelmust@aol.com Re: this listserve By rebelmust@aol.com King Cobra pictures By vbeauvais@home.com ------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 14:33:29 -0800 (PST) From: moone100@chapman.edu Subject: RE: Re: Mustang II rack $800 sounds fair, particularly if all the cobra II pieces are there. Keep in mind '78 was the last year for the II. '79 brought the third generation in. If the hood scoop faces rear, it's a '78. It faced front in '77 and '76. Use the vin decoder on the II web site to make sure it's the real deal. The fog lights would have to be aftermarket on the II. In '79, fog lights were an option on the next generation. -Paul >no vynil top.... thanks... i really am glad it doesn't have one... but more >and more i'm thinking the interior was completely changed out including the >dash face and and console and all.... also.. haha... i'm beginning to think >of buying a cobra and selling this car so there wont be any controversy.. >oh.. the cobra... does $800.00 sound fair? has v8; has run in aover 15 years >but in very good condition; no body work ever done; no rust; interior looks >like new; wheels original; think its a '77 or '79 but the hood has the raised >thingy.. and the front area has fog lights..... etc.... so.... should i? > > >_____________________________________________________________ >Keep up with breaking news! Join our Hot Topics list. >http://www.topica.com/lists/breakingnews/t/12 > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 00:05:42 EST From: Gr8pmkn1969@aol.com Subject: Re: Mustang II rack i wouldnt pass up an 800 $ cobra especially a v8 car ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 12:00:30 EST From: REBELMUST@aol.com Subject: Re: 4cyl to V-8 conversion we have new mustang ii springs both front and rear,thanks steve at rebel mustang ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 12:07:32 EST From: REBELMUST@aol.com Subject: Re: Mustang II rack i have no 800 # rebel mustang phone # is (562) 694-8770 part can go us mail please use the same # to fax me a drawing to be sure we are talking about the same part,thanks,steve ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 12:40:17 EST From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Subject: Re: 4cyl to V-8 conversion do u have the "Cobra suspension package" and how much? and do u have an 800 number so i can call and order? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 17:35:39 EST From: REBELMUST@aol.com Subject: Re: 4cyl to V-8 conversion please what you consider a cobra package? i no doughty have it, no 800 number at this time, please call me at (562) 694-8770 to 5 PST i hope i spelled all the words right as the maker of this list has said that my spelling is not so goos.thanks Steve ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 17:38:48 EST From: COBRAII976@aol.com Subject: Re: 4cyl to V-8 conversion Wrong list that is the MustangII.Org list that went after your spelling not us we don't do that here. We don't even Like Mark to be here. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 01:14:02 GMT From: "tim thompson" Subject: Re: 4cyl to V-8 conversion >Wrong list that is the MustangII.Org list What is this? Tim ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 20:16:42 EST From: COBRAII976@aol.com Subject: Re: 4cyl to V-8 conversion In a message dated 1/13/00 8:14:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, tims302@hotmail.com writes: What is this as in what list are we on now? this is the MustangII.Net list the MustangII.Org list is a list of people that like to bitch and fight and talk about everything but Mustang II's Dave > >Wrong list that is the MustangII.Org list > > What is this? > Tim ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 17:37:00 -0800 (PST) From: moone100@chapman.edu Subject: RE: this listserve To add my two cents, I'm glad I discovered this listserve instead of the .org one. I've only been on this one for about two months, but the way you guys help each other and the passion you all have for II's is nice to see. I've been on several listserves that started good but ended up as pissing contests. (rather disappointing) I hope this group continues what I have seen so far and remains an example of how it should be. -Paul ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 22:55:51 EST From: COBRAII976@aol.com Subject: Re: this listserve Paul, You got the right list this is all about the passion that we have for the II The webmast owns a pair his partner in crime is a parts supplier another guy is an MCA gold winner so you got the right list. Dave ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 22:57:29 EST From: REBELMUST@aol.com Subject: Re: 4cyl to V-8 conversion thanks,10% discount to any parts buyer off your list,for the next 30 days,its about cars not about spelling,Steve rebel mustang ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 22:59:13 EST From: REBELMUST@aol.com Subject: Re: this listserve thanks,Steve rebel mustang ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 22:59:38 EST From: REBELMUST@aol.com Subject: Re: this listserve ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 22:58:03 -0800 From: "Vincent Beauvais" Subject: King Cobra pictures This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BF5E19.A5D423C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I thought some of you might be interested to see pictures of my King Cobra. http://www.members.home.net/vbeauvais/kcobra/king.htm Vince ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BF5E19.A5D423C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I = thought some of=20 you might be interested to see pictures of my King = Cobra. http://www= .members.home.net/vbeauvais/kcobra/king.htm Vince ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BF5E19.A5D423C0-- ------------------------------ End of mustangii@topica.com digest, issue 11 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 37 of 46 From: mustangii@topica.com Save Address -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To: mustangii@topica.com Subject: Digest for mustangii@topica.com, issue 12 Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 03:32:23 -0800 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Topica Digest -- RE: this listserve By cobra_2_76@yahoo.com Re: King Cobra pictures By HD7480@altavista.com Re: King Cobra pictures By tgrahl@iocenter.net Re: this listserve By tgrahl@iocenter.net Re: this listserve By DoUFeelThis2@aol.com RE: this listserve By moone100@chapman.edu Buy Cobra II By jww159@mustangii.net ------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 04:35:21 -0800 (PST) From: David Wilson Subject: RE: this listserve .ORG started out the same way, strong passion for the cars, little other conversations, I've been on it since about 30 days after it started. I suppose unless the list is moderated in some way this may be a natural progression of the list serv's? Have you been on the .org list? I hope so, otherwise you comment could be taken as a little out of line. I've lost a lot of interest in the other list too, but would this list have come about if Tim hadn't gotten bored with .org? --- moone100@chapman.edu wrote: > To add my two cents, I'm glad I discovered this > listserve instead of > the .org one. I've only been on this one for about > two months, but > the way you guys help each other and the passion you > all have for > II's is nice to see. I've been on several > listserves that started > good but ended up as pissing contests. (rather > disappointing) I > hope this group continues what I have seen so far > and remains an > example of how it should be. > -Paul > > > > _____________________________________________________________ > Check out the new and improved Topica site! > http://www.topica.com/t/13 > ===== Dave Wilson Cobra_2_76@yahoo.com My Cobra II, hosted by Dan Polk http://www.northpro.net/~polk/mii/ My home page is : http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Speedway/7500/index.html alt mail: Dwilson@ftmc.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: 14 Jan 2000 05:28:52 -0800 From: Tim Chandler Subject: Re: King Cobra pictures On Thu, 13 January 2000, vbeauvais@home.com wrote: Nice KC Vince The II sites is the only place I've ever seen KC's never ran across on in the Wild Good Luck with your project Later Tim > > > > > > > I thought some of > you might be interested to see pictures of my King Cobra. > class=850165606-14012000> > href="http://www.members.home.net/vbeauvais/kcobra/king.htm">http://www.members.home.net/vbeauvais/kcobra/king.htm > class=850165606-14012000> > class=850165606-14012000>Vince > class=850165606-14012000> > class=850165606-14012000> > ______________________________________________________________ Free Internet Access from AltaVista: Get it, share it & win! http://freeaccess.altavista.com/pika/www/initweb.jsp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 08:32:06 -0500 From: "Timothy M. Grahl" Subject: Re: King Cobra pictures This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01BF5E69.D77B6AF0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0036_01BF5E69.D77E7830" ------=_NextPart_001_0036_01BF5E69.D77E7830 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nice looking King. If you want to put a picture of it in our visitors = area, let me know. Tim -----Original Message----- From: vbeauvais@home.com To: Mustang II mailing list Date: Friday, January 14, 2000 1:57 AM Subject: King Cobra pictures =20 =20 I thought some of you might be interested to see pictures of my King = Cobra. =20 http://www.members.home.net/vbeauvais/kcobra/king.htm =20 Vince =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_001_0036_01BF5E69.D77E7830 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Transitional//EN"> Nice looking King. If you want = to put a=20 picture of it in our visitors area, let me know. Tim -----Original = Message----- From:=20 vbeauvais@home.com = To:=20 Mustang II mailing list D= ate:=20 Friday, January 14, 2000 1:57 AM Subject: King Cobra=20 pictures I = thought some=20 of you might be interested to see pictures of my King=20 Cobra. http://www= .members.home.net/vbeauvais/kcobra/king.htm Vince ------=_NextPart_001_0036_01BF5E69.D77E7830-- ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01BF5E69.D77B6AF0 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; name="Timothy M. Grahl.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Timothy M. Grahl.vcf" BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Grahl;Timothy;M. FN:Timothy M. Grahl ORG:Internet Operations Center;Web Development TITLE:Web Development and E-Commerce Specialist TEL;WORK;VOICE:248.204.8806 TEL;HOME;VOICE:313.533.1280 TEL;HOME;FAX:313.537.3536 ADR;WORK;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:;;200 Galleria = Officentre=3D0D=3D0ASuite 109;Southfield;Michigan;48240;USA LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:200 Galleria = Officentre=3D0D=3D0ASuite 109=3D0D=3D0ASouthfield, Michigan = 48240=3D0D=3D =3D0AUSA ADR;HOME:;;19964 Fox;Redford;MI;48240;USA LABEL;HOME;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:19964 Fox=3D0D=3D0ARedford, MI = 48240=3D0D=3D0AUSA URL:http://www.mustangii.net URL:http://www.iocenter.net EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:tgrahl@iocenter.net REV:20000114T133206Z END:VCARD ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01BF5E69.D77B6AF0-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 08:35:39 -0500 From: "Timothy M. Grahl" Subject: Re: this listserve This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0041_01BF5E6A.5663D230 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I really didn't get bored with the org list, I felt that a few of the members were about as immature as they could get. If list members have to weed through all of the flames and negativity, they will move on somewhere else. I just want to provide an avenue of information for those who love the II's and want to learn as much about them as possible. The Mustang II has long been a discarded car by collectors and clubs and I will do my best to turn that around. The Mustang II IS a mustang and the sooner people realize this fact, the more IIs we will see on the road getting the respect they deserve. Tim -----Original Message----- From: David Wilson To: mustangii@topica.com Date: Friday, January 14, 2000 7:33 AM Subject: RE: this listserve >.ORG started out the same way, strong passion for the >cars, little other conversations, I've been on it >since about 30 days after it started. I suppose >unless the list is moderated in some way this may be a >natural progression of the list serv's? > >Have you been on the .org list? I hope so, otherwise >you comment could be taken as a little out of line. >I've lost a lot of interest in the other list too, but >would this list have come about if Tim hadn't gotten >bored with .org? > >--- moone100@chapman.edu wrote: >> To add my two cents, I'm glad I discovered this >> listserve instead of >> the .org one. I've only been on this one for about >> two months, but >> the way you guys help each other and the passion you >> all have for >> II's is nice to see. I've been on several >> listserves that started >> good but ended up as pissing contests. (rather >> disappointing) I >> hope this group continues what I have seen so far >> and remains an >> example of how it should be. >> -Paul >> >> >> >> >_____________________________________________________________ >> Check out the new and improved Topica site! >> http://www.topica.com/t/13 >> > >===== >Dave Wilson >Cobra_2_76@yahoo.com >My Cobra II, hosted by Dan Polk >http://www.northpro.net/~polk/mii/ >My home page is : >http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Speedway/7500/index.html >alt mail: Dwilson@ftmc.com >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. >http://im.yahoo.com > > >_____________________________________________________________ >Check out the new and improved Topica site! >http://www.topica.com/t/13 > > ------=_NextPart_000_0041_01BF5E6A.5663D230 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; name="Timothy M. Grahl.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Timothy M. Grahl.vcf" BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Grahl;Timothy;M. FN:Timothy M. Grahl ORG:Internet Operations Center;Web Development TITLE:Web Development and E-Commerce Specialist TEL;WORK;VOICE:248.204.8806 TEL;HOME;VOICE:313.533.1280 TEL;HOME;FAX:313.537.3536 ADR;WORK;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:;;200 Galleria = Officentre=3D0D=3D0ASuite 109;Southfield;Michigan;48240;USA LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:200 Galleria = Officentre=3D0D=3D0ASuite 109=3D0D=3D0ASouthfield, Michigan = 48240=3D0D=3D =3D0AUSA ADR;HOME:;;19964 Fox;Redford;MI;48240;USA LABEL;HOME;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:19964 Fox=3D0D=3D0ARedford, MI = 48240=3D0D=3D0AUSA URL:http://www.mustangii.net URL:http://www.iocenter.net EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:tgrahl@iocenter.net REV:20000114T133539Z END:VCARD ------=_NextPart_000_0041_01BF5E6A.5663D230-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 09:03:16 EST From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Subject: Re: this listserve i agree, the II is a mustang... and it seems as i read thru the magizine ads that many after market company (genuis level=monkey), think Ford quit the mustang after 1973... so i see little and i mean hardly anthing for the II and not too much after our beloved II.... so.. they need to take a course in marketing... for to enlarge their market offerings (and i know we're not numbered at the levels of the early stangs) is to increase interest in ur company. Oh, well... why is it all the real American brains end up owning the mustang II???? (Looking down on the pre-II crowd: ha! take that!).... oh; by the way... any one know of a mustang II publication other than a catolog? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 10:11:49 -0800 (PST) From: moone100@chapman.edu Subject: RE: this listserve My earlier comments need clarification. I was not trying to be negative about another listserve, but rather comment on the positives of this one. I have not found the negatives here that concern many of you about the .org site. I hope the .org site has (or will) come around. When I got my first II in '88, there was nothing out there (parts, info, support, etc.) so I am more than happy to see that there is more than one listserve out there. Sorry for the lack of clarity. Paul ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 20:41:07 -0800 From: "Joseph Werner" Subject: Buy Cobra II I am looking to buy a Cobra II or King cobra in very good stock condition. If anybody knows of one for sale I would apreciate their input. Joe ------------------------------------------------------------ Get your free email at the Mustang II Network http://www.mustangii.net ------------------------------ End of mustangii@topica.com digest, issue 12 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 36 of 46 From: mustangii@topica.com Save Address -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To: mustangii@topica.com Subject: Digest for mustangii@topica.com, issue 13 Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 03:31:26 -0800 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Topica Digest -- Re: cobra II hood By zstlkr@aol.com Re: Buy Cobra II By rebelmust@aol.com Re: cobra II hood By rebelmust@aol.com ------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 11:24:28 EST From: ZSTLKR@aol.com Subject: Re: cobra II hood are you still looking for a scoop I have the whole if you are intrested chuck ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 16:43:03 EST From: REBELMUST@aol.com Subject: Re: Buy Cobra II OK, Joe i know of one king that has come up Fr sale,black/black,auto,59k orig miles orig owner, sitting from 1988 (outside) int is like new, had valve job in 88 and owner could not get timing right then stored, i last saw this car 2 years ago, and was trying to buy it. price was to high owner has recently contacted me at a lover price, was broken in to and radio stolden,owner replaced broken pass window(glass company instal) this car is never been hit no rust int is great,IM looking at it again to buy it on Monday, will then offer it for sale at 3500.00 as is.any intrust please contact me at (562) 694-8770 or by e-mail,wish me luck as i have been trying to buy this car for over 5 years, took me 3 years to get the owner to show it to me, i have 3 kings already so i will sell this one, Steve ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 16:48:03 EST From: REBELMUST@aol.com Subject: Re: cobra II hood yes on the hood scoop, how much?,steve ------------------------------ End of mustangii@topica.com digest, issue 13 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 35 of 46 From: mustangii@topica.com Save Address -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To: mustangii@topica.com Subject: Digest for mustangii@topica.com, issue 14 Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 03:31:22 -0800 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Topica Digest -- Re: Buy Cobra II By jww159@mustangii.net 1977 Mustang II By RCStenic@prodigy.net Re: 1977 Mustang II By HD7480@altavista.com ------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 11:11:43 -0800 From: "Joseph Werner" Subject: Re: Buy Cobra II Thank you for your reply steve. The king you mentioned sounds perfect except I don't have that much money and I need a car that runs. You say that you are soon going to buy this car and if you are like me you will start to fix it. If you do fix it and have not sold the car yet I would be glad to take a look and perhaps buy it when I have saved the money. I will probably have enough money in about six months. >To: mustangii@topica.com >From: rebelmust@aol.com >Subject: Re: Buy Cobra II >Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 13:43:37 -0800 >Reply-To: mustangii@topica.com > >OK, Joe i know of one king that has come up Fr sale,black/black,auto,59k orig >miles >orig owner, sitting from 1988 (outside) int is like new, had valve job in 88 >and owner could not get timing right then stored, i last saw this car 2 years >ago, and was trying to buy it. price was to high owner has recently contacted >me at a lover price, was broken in to and radio stolden,owner replaced broken >pass window(glass company instal) this car is never been hit no rust int is >great,IM looking at it again to buy it on Monday, will then offer it for sale >at 3500.00 as is.any intrust please contact me at (562) 694-8770 or by >e-mail,wish me luck as i have been trying to buy this car for >over 5 years, took me 3 years to get the owner to show it to me, i have 3 >kings already so i will sell this one, Steve > > >_____________________________________________________________ >Check out the new and improved Topica site! >http://www.topica.com/t/13 ------------------------------------------------------------ Get your free email at the Mustang II Network http://www.mustangii.net ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 16:58:42 -0600 From: "Ralph C Stenic" Subject: 1977 Mustang II This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BF6042.F158CD20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a very puzzling question of a friends II. It is a 1977 II with a = full vinal top. We would like to know how many full vinal tops were = produced on the II's. The vin number is as follows 7f02f125111. all we = have found is when it was born and where it was born at. Thanks for the = help with this problem. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BF6042.F158CD20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a very puzzling question of a friends II. It = is a 1977=20 II with a full vinal top. We would like to know how many full vinal tops = were=20 produced on the II's. The vin number is as follows 7f02f125111. all we = have=20 found is when it was born and where it was born at. Thanks for the help = with=20 this problem. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BF6042.F158CD20-- ------------------------------ Date: 16 Jan 2000 15:57:39 -0800 From: Tim Chandler Subject: Re: 1977 Mustang II On Sun, 16 January 2000, Ralph C Stenic wrote: Ralf What does the door tag have on it? also does it have a buck tag The buck tag is located on the radiator support just to the right of the radiator on the front of the support. As for how many IIs have full vinal tops I'm not sure. I have Cobra IIs and none have vinal. I think the 02 stands for coupe The first f is for Dearborn the second f is for 302 V-8 HTH Later Tim > > > > > > > > > I have a very puzzling question of a friends II. It is a 1977 > II with a full vinal top. We would like to know how many full vinal tops were > produced on the II's. The vin number is as follows 7f02f125111. all we have > found is when it was born and where it was born at. Thanks for the help with > this problem. ______________________________________________________________ Free Internet Access from AltaVista: Get it, share it & win! http://freeaccess.altavista.com/pika/www/initweb.jsp ------------------------------ End of mustangii@topica.com digest, issue 14 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 34 of 46 From: mustangii@topica.com Save Address -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To: mustangii@topica.com Subject: Digest for mustangii@topica.com, issue 15 Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 03:31:40 -0800 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Topica Digest -- Guest Book By tgrahl@iocenter.net Re: Guest Book By Cobraii976@aol.com Mustang II of the month By tgrahl@iocenter.net RE: Mustang II of the month By jjallen@nextdim.com Re: Mustang II of the month By HD7480@altavista.com Re: Mustang II of the month By Cobraii976@aol.com MustangII.Com By MustangIIThousand@MustangII.Net ------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 09:10:57 -0500 From: "Timothy M. Grahl" Subject: Guest Book This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00CD_01BF60CA.C3A47AE0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_00CE_01BF60CA.C3A47AE0" ------=_NextPart_001_00CE_01BF60CA.C3A47AE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It seems that a Mr. Potatoe Head (sp?) has visited the Network and Org = guest books recently. Someone has been watching Toy Story too much. Anyway, the entry on the Network site has been removed and apparently = another was removed from the Org list. We just might have to make hash = browns out of this guy. :) I'll probably get blamed for this from Sergio. Timothy M. Grahl Web Development and E-Commerce Specialist Internet Operations Center 200 Galleria Officentre Suite 109 Southfield, Michigan 48034 tgrahl@iocenter.net 248.204.8806 ------=_NextPart_001_00CE_01BF60CA.C3A47AE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It seems that a Mr. Potatoe Head = (sp?) has=20 visited the Network and Org guest books recently. Someone has been = watching Toy Story too much. Anyway, = the entry on=20 the Network site has been removed and apparently another was removed = from the=20 Org list. We just might have to make hash browns out of this = guy. =20 :) I'll probably get blamed for this from = Sergio. Timothy M. Grahl Web Development = and=20 E-Commerce Specialist Internet Operations Center 200 Galleria=20 Officentre Suite 109 Southfield, Michigan 48034 tgrahl@iocenter.net 248.204.88= 06 ------=_NextPart_001_00CE_01BF60CA.C3A47AE0-- ------=_NextPart_000_00CD_01BF60CA.C3A47AE0 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; name="Timothy M. Grahl.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Timothy M. Grahl.vcf" BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Grahl;Timothy;M. FN:Timothy M. Grahl ORG:Internet Operations Center;Web Development TITLE:Web Development and E-Commerce Specialist TEL;WORK;VOICE:248.204.8806 TEL;HOME;VOICE:313.533.1280 TEL;HOME;FAX:313.537.3536 ADR;WORK;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:;;200 Galleria = Officentre=3D0D=3D0ASuite 109;Southfield;Michigan;48240;USA LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:200 Galleria = Officentre=3D0D=3D0ASuite 109=3D0D=3D0ASouthfield, Michigan = 48240=3D0D=3D =3D0AUSA ADR;HOME:;;19964 Fox;Redford;MI;48240;USA LABEL;HOME;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:19964 Fox=3D0D=3D0ARedford, MI = 48240=3D0D=3D0AUSA URL:http://www.mustangii.net URL:http://www.iocenter.net EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:tgrahl@iocenter.net REV:20000117T141057Z END:VCARD ------=_NextPart_000_00CD_01BF60CA.C3A47AE0-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 09:25:09 EST From: COBRAII976@aol.com Subject: Re: Guest Book He already blamed you on the ORG list so don'g count it as probably count is as fact. I guess you can do what ORG is going to do and shut the guestbook down hell they might as well shut the whole site down there is NOTHING there but the List and a Link to Stangnet's forums. D ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 15:18:34 -0500 From: "Timothy M. Grahl" Subject: Mustang II of the month This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0153_01BF60FE.1EFFBF20 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0154_01BF60FE.1EFFBF20" ------=_NextPart_001_0154_01BF60FE.1EFFBF20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I need a Mustang II for the Mustang II of the Month on the site. All = that is required is 3 or 4 pictures and 3 or 4 small paragraphs about = your car. You can also include an external link in the description if = you have your own site. This is a good way to get exposure for your car = and/or your site. Timothy M. Grahl ------=_NextPart_001_0154_01BF60FE.1EFFBF20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I need a Mustang II for the Mustang II of the Month = on the=20 site. All that is required is 3 or 4 pictures and 3 or 4 small = paragraphs=20 about your car. You can also include an external link in the = description=20 if you have your own site. This is a good way to get exposure for = your car=20 and/or your site. Timothy M. = Grahl ------=_NextPart_001_0154_01BF60FE.1EFFBF20-- ------=_NextPart_000_0153_01BF60FE.1EFFBF20 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; name="Timothy M. Grahl.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Timothy M. Grahl.vcf" BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Grahl;Timothy;M. FN:Timothy M. Grahl ORG:Internet Operations Center;Web Development TITLE:Web Development and E-Commerce Specialist TEL;WORK;VOICE:248.204.8806 TEL;HOME;VOICE:313.533.1280 TEL;HOME;FAX:313.537.3536 ADR;WORK;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:;;200 Galleria = Officentre=3D0D=3D0ASuite 109;Southfield;Michigan;48240;USA LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:200 Galleria = Officentre=3D0D=3D0ASuite 109=3D0D=3D0ASouthfield, Michigan = 48240=3D0D=3D =3D0AUSA ADR;HOME:;;19964 Fox;Redford;MI;48240;USA LABEL;HOME;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:19964 Fox=3D0D=3D0ARedford, MI = 48240=3D0D=3D0AUSA URL:http://www.mustangii.net URL:http://www.iocenter.net EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:tgrahl@iocenter.net REV:20000117T201834Z END:VCARD ------=_NextPart_000_0153_01BF60FE.1EFFBF20-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 19:01:48 -0800 From: "J. Allenton" Subject: RE: Mustang II of the month This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BF611D.B487AE80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tim, all info and pics of my car are on mustangii.org or mustangii.net You can also see all my pics and info on my own web site at http://www.nextdim.com/users/jjallen Hope this helps, Thanks Jef -----Original Message----- From: Timothy M. Grahl [mailto:tgrahl@iocenter.net] Sent: Monday, January 17, 2000 12:21 PM To: mustangii@topica.com Subject: Mustang II of the month I need a Mustang II for the Mustang II of the Month on the site. All that is required is 3 or 4 pictures and 3 or 4 small paragraphs about your car. You can also include an external link in the description if you have your own site. This is a good way to get exposure for your car and/or your site. Timothy M. Grahl ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BF611D.B487AE80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tim,=20 all info and pics of my car are on mustangii.org or=20 mustangii.net You can=20 also see all my pics and info on my own web site at http://www.nextdim.com/user= s/jjallen Hope=20 this helps, Thanks Jef -----Original Message----- From: Timothy M. Grahl=20 [mailto:tgrahl@iocenter.net] Sent: Monday, January 17, 2000 = 12:21=20 PM To: mustangii@topica.com Subject: Mustang II of = the=20 month I need a Mustang II for the Mustang II of the = Month on the=20 site. All that is required is 3 or 4 pictures and 3 or 4 small=20 paragraphs about your car. You can also include an external link = in the=20 description if you have your own site. This is a good way to get = exposure for your car and/or your site. Timothy M.=20 Grahl ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01BF611D.B487AE80-- ------------------------------ Date: 17 Jan 2000 19:04:54 -0800 From: Tim Chandler Subject: Re: Mustang II of the month On Mon, 17 January 2000, "Timothy M. Grahl" wrote: I'd love to Tim But mine aren't what I consider posting quality Maybe when I get the project finished I'll let you have it for consideration Thanks Tim C > > > > > > > > > > I need a Mustang II for the Mustang II of the Month on the > site. All that is required is 3 or 4 pictures and 3 or 4 small paragraphs > about your car. You can also include an external link in the description > if you have your own site. This is a good way to get exposure for your car > and/or your site. > > > Timothy M. Grahl ______________________________________________________________ Free Internet Access from AltaVista: Get it, share it & win! http://freeaccess.altavista.com/pika/www/initweb.jsp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 22:06:15 EST From: COBRAII976@aol.com Subject: Re: Mustang II of the month Send the project we will take it ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 23:45:11 -0800 From: "Dave Pillsbury" Subject: MustangII.Com We bought it and now we're gonna use it. for what you ask? only the biggest parts supplier index on the net for mustang II's. who is in? better to ask who is not in out of the majority only CT is not in. Phil is in Steve is in Bernie is in Garry is in. This is one stop Mustang II parts shopping with one simple request form your parts search will be sent to 5 different Mustang II suppliers saving you time and wasted calls. There will also be an online store front for each supplier so you can check on that needed part. what is this service going to cost? Free and why is that MustangII.Net and MustangII.Com are self supporting sites that are here to provide the Mustang II world with all it's needs. When will MustangII.Com be up? Phil is first up this week with the rest to follow .com will be hosted on the net space until we work out a better storage deal for it. The staff at MustangII.Net and MustangII.Com would like to thank all of our fellow II owners for making this site what it is. ------------------------------------------------------------ Get your free email at the Mustang II Network http://www.mustangii.net ------------------------------ End of mustangii@topica.com digest, issue 15 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 33 of 46 From: mustangii@topica.com Save Address -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To: mustangii@topica.com Subject: Digest for mustangii@topica.com, issue 16 Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 03:32:02 -0800 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Topica Digest -- [Fwd: Interesting Buck tags By stangii@mustangii.net Re: MustangII.Com By molson@ibm.net Re: MustangII.Com By DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Re: MustangII.Com By DoUFeelThis2@aol.com ------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 05:40:28 -0800 From: "Timothy Grahl" Subject: [Fwd: Interesting Buck tags Here is an email I received recently. Seems this car has some interesting buck tag codes that I haven't seen before like KF, H, and FW. Anyone have any guesses? >From: SIEBOL@aol.com >Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 22:45:55 EST >Subject: (no subject) >To: stangii@mustangii.net > >HI,Iam looking for any information on a 1978 mustang 11 with t-tops this is >the numbers off the buck tag from the radiator 8R03F138403 9D A 69F FW 39 H >KF 6 TARGA FD9.There no decals left on it, we are just now doing the motor. >Thank you for any information! ------------------------------------------------------------ Get your free email at the Mustang II Network http://www.mustangii.net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 08:41:14 -0500 From: Matthew Olson Subject: Re: MustangII.Com Dave Pillsbury wrote: > > > When will MustangII.Com be up? Phil is first up this week with the rest to follow .com will be hosted on the net space until we work out a better storage deal for it. > The staff at MustangII.Net and MustangII.Com would like to thank all of our fellow II owners for making this site what it is. > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Get your free email at the Mustang II Network > http://www.mustangii.net > > _____________________________________________________________ > Check out the new and improved Topica site! > http://www.topica.com/t/13 Sounds awesome! Thanks for putting the whole thing together...I've longed for something like this for a long time. Gave up on my first project in part because of the expense and difficulty (but I still miss my '74 at times). Oh well, back to work on my '76! -- Matt Olson ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 12:05:20 EST From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Subject: Re: MustangII.Com In a message dated 1/18/00 1:45:51 AM Central Standard Time, MustangIIThousand@MustangII.Net writes: << MustangII.Com >> ur a great resourse for me... i am now looking at a cobra resto and have my '76 working now and gonna sell it to bring in the new cobra... in style!!! i found out the reason the guy has not touched the cobra II in so long... it was outfitted with a 'new' motor rebuild (have to do it all over again now)... and they decided during the rebuild to take out all the guages, and put all new wires under the hood..... and so someone (doing a FAVOR).. ripped out all of the wires and they put in the fresh mildly hopped up motor... but no one knew how to rewire it from scratch.... i do... so.... haha... i will buy a new wiring harness and start... and i'll get wires marked as to where they come from and where they go... simple... not a product found everywhere thou.......... hmmmm source for such wiring harness today for a mustang II cobra?... not ur local parts store.... help!!! tanks folks... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 15:42:37 EST From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Subject: Re: MustangII.Com In a message dated 1/18/00 11:06:24 AM Central Standard Time, DoUFeelThis2@aol.com writes: << http://www.topica.com/t/13 >> thanks... i did.... ------------------------------ End of mustangii@topica.com digest, issue 16 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 32 of 46 From: mustangii@topica.com Save Address -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To: mustangii@topica.com Subject: Digest for mustangii@topica.com, issue 17 Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 03:31:58 -0800 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Topica Digest -- engine bay snapshots for V8 By kmwatts@n-connect.net RE: engine bay snapshots for V8 By a351must@premier1.net Re: engine bay snapshots for V8 By Cor1580@aol.com Re: engine bay snapshots for V8 By molson@ibm.net BUCK CODE By Cor1580@aol.com Re: BUCK CODE By tgrahl@iocenter.net OT - False information By tgrahl@iocenter.net Re: BUCK CODE By Cor1580@aol.com Re: OT - False information By tims302@hotmail.com Re: engine bay snapshots for V8 By tims302@hotmail.com Re: OT - False information By Cobraii976@aol.com Re: OT - False information By DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Re: OT - False information By DoUFeelThis2@aol.com ------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 11:07:36 -0600 From: "kmwatts" Subject: engine bay snapshots for V8 Would anyone have some pics of a vacant engine bay for a v8 stang II?...just want some reference pics is all..thanks in advance. Kenneth Watts ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 09:05:34 -0800 From: "Darryl Lang (Entex)" Subject: RE: engine bay snapshots for V8 I have a vacant bay, but there's absolutely nothing in it...totally stripped. Would that even be any help? Darryl -----Original Message----- From: kmwatts [mailto:kmwatts@n-connect.net] Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2000 9:01 AM To: mustangii@topica.com Subject: engine bay snapshots for V8 Would anyone have some pics of a vacant engine bay for a v8 stang II?...just want some reference pics is all..thanks in advance. Kenneth Watts _____________________________________________________________ Check out the new and improved Topica site! http://www.topica.com/t/13 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 12:13:57 EST From: COR1580@aol.com Subject: Re: engine bay snapshots for V8 I do have a vacant bay as well. Most everything is stock i removed all air conditioning lines however hope that will help Corey ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 12:10:26 -0500 From: Matthew Olson Subject: Re: engine bay snapshots for V8 I have a bay in which the engine only is removed, but it had been partially stripped prior to that so the location of the overflow bottle and the windshield washer bottle, for instance, are not evident. The various brake lines and electrical lines are intact, however. I also have some magazine photos of intact Mustang II engine bays (including engines) I could have scanned if that would help. -- Matt Olson ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 13:26:03 EST From: COR1580@aol.com Subject: BUCK CODE I have a ?? EX right be V8 on my bucktag anyone have a clue?? Thanks in advance Corey ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 13:28:05 -0500 From: "Timothy M. Grahl" Subject: Re: BUCK CODE This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_016C_01BF6281.04A13440 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What year is the car? -----Original Message----- From: Cor1580@aol.com To: mustangii@topica.com Date: Wednesday, January 19, 2000 1:26 PM Subject: BUCK CODE I have a ?? EX right be V8 on my bucktag anyone have a clue?? Thanks in advance Corey _____________________________________________________________ Check out the new and improved Topica site! http://www.topica.com/t/13 ------=_NextPart_000_016C_01BF6281.04A13440 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; name="Timothy M. Grahl.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Timothy M. Grahl.vcf" BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Grahl;Timothy;M. FN:Timothy M. Grahl ORG:Internet Operations Center;Web Development TITLE:Web Development and E-Commerce Specialist TEL;WORK;VOICE:248.204.8806 TEL;HOME;VOICE:313.533.1280 TEL;HOME;FAX:313.537.3536 ADR;WORK;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:;;200 Galleria = Officentre=3D0D=3D0ASuite 109;Southfield;Michigan;48240;USA LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:200 Galleria = Officentre=3D0D=3D0ASuite 109=3D0D=3D0ASouthfield, Michigan = 48240=3D0D=3D =3D0AUSA ADR;HOME:;;19964 Fox;Redford;MI;48240;USA LABEL;HOME;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:19964 Fox=3D0D=3D0ARedford, MI = 48240=3D0D=3D0AUSA URL:http://www.mustangii.net URL:http://www.iocenter.net EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:tgrahl@iocenter.net REV:20000119T182805Z END:VCARD ------=_NextPart_000_016C_01BF6281.04A13440-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 14:14:59 -0500 From: "Timothy M. Grahl" Subject: OT - False information This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_017A_01BF6287.9210BA20 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_017B_01BF6287.9210BA20" ------=_NextPart_001_017B_01BF6287.9210BA20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It has come to my attention that the Mustang II Network has recently = been accused of mud-slinging and posting derogatory comments to the = Mustang II Organization guest book. Let me set the story straight. = Neither I nor anyone associated with the Network site had anything to do = with the posts to the guest book. A similar post was put on the = Network guest book, but this was overlooked by certain people making = these accusations. The post was removed from the Network guestbook and = the issue was dropped on my end. Apparently, the entries bothered some = people more than others and it became an issue. As webmaster, you have = the ability to ignore and delete these entries and forget about them. = Instead, some people decided that the posts came from me and started = throwing "mud" all over email and other guest book entries. To me, = this seems more childish than the original posts. I know who put in = the original entries and that person has been dealt with accordingly. =20 Before anyone starts slinging mud, you must get your facts straight and = make sure it doesn't end up on your face. Timothy M. Grahl Webmaster=20 Mustang II Network Mustang II Parts Distributors - coming soon ------=_NextPart_001_017B_01BF6287.9210BA20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It has come to my attention that the = Mustang II=20 Network has recently been accused of mud-slinging and posting derogatory = comments to the Mustang II Organization guest book. Let me set the = story=20 straight. Neither I nor anyone associated with the Network = site had=20 anything to do with the posts to the guest book. A similar = post was=20 put on the Network guest book, but this was overlooked by certain people = making=20 these accusations. The post was removed from the Network guestbook = and the=20 issue was dropped on my end. Apparently, the entries = bothered some=20 people more than others and it became an issue. As webmaster, you = have the=20 ability to ignore and delete these entries and forget about them. = Instead,=20 some people decided that the posts came from me and started throwing=20 "mud" all over email and other guest book entries. = To me,=20 this seems more childish than the original posts. I know who = put in=20 the original entries and that person has been dealt with = accordingly. =20 Before anyone starts slinging mud, you must = get your=20 facts straight and make sure it doesn't end up on your = face. Timothy M. Grahl Webmaster = Mustang II Network Mustang II Parts Distributors - = coming=20 soon ------=_NextPart_001_017B_01BF6287.9210BA20-- ------=_NextPart_000_017A_01BF6287.9210BA20 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; name="Timothy M. Grahl.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Timothy M. Grahl.vcf" BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Grahl;Timothy;M. FN:Timothy M. Grahl ORG:Internet Operations Center;Web Development TITLE:Web Development and E-Commerce Specialist TEL;WORK;VOICE:248.204.8806 TEL;HOME;VOICE:313.533.1280 TEL;HOME;FAX:313.537.3536 ADR;WORK;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:;;200 Galleria = Officentre=3D0D=3D0ASuite 109;Southfield;Michigan;48240;USA LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:200 Galleria = Officentre=3D0D=3D0ASuite 109=3D0D=3D0ASouthfield, Michigan = 48240=3D0D=3D =3D0AUSA ADR;HOME:;;19964 Fox;Redford;MI;48240;USA LABEL;HOME;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:19964 Fox=3D0D=3D0ARedford, MI = 48240=3D0D=3D0AUSA URL:http://www.mustangii.net URL:http://www.iocenter.net EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:tgrahl@iocenter.net REV:20000119T191459Z END:VCARD ------=_NextPart_000_017A_01BF6287.9210BA20-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 15:02:08 EST From: COR1580@aol.com Subject: Re: BUCK CODE 78 sedan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 00:37:34 GMT From: "tim thompson" Subject: Re: OT - False information What is the reason anyone here gives a flip about .org, or them about .net? There appears to be at least one poster to this list that is very vocal about their hatred for the .org list. This sort of CRAP is the reason I dropped off the .org list. I hope that the same does not become the case for this list. Thanks, Tim >From: "Timothy M. Grahl" >Reply-To: mustangii@topica.com >To: mustangii@topica.com, mustangii@mustangii.org >Subject: OT - False information >Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 11:16:22 -0800 > >It has come to my attention that the Mustang II Network has recently been >accused of mud-slinging and posting derogatory comments to the Mustang II >Organization guest book. Let me set the story straight. Neither I nor >anyone associated with the Network site had anything to do with the posts >to the guest book. A similar post was put on the Network guest book, but >this was overlooked by certain people making these accusations. The post >was removed from the Network guestbook and the issue was dropped on my end. > Apparently, the entries bothered some people more than others and it >became an issue. As webmaster, you have the ability to ignore and delete >these entries and forget about them. Instead, some people decided that the >posts came from me and started throwing "mud" all over email and other >guest book entries. To me, this seems more childish than the original >posts. I know who put in the original entries and that person has been >dealt with accordingly. > >Before anyone starts slinging mud, you must get your facts straight and >make sure it doesn't end up on your face. > > >Timothy M. Grahl >Webmaster >Mustang II Network >Mustang II Parts Distributors - coming soon ><< TimothyM.Grahl.vcf >> ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 00:41:33 GMT From: "tim thompson" Subject: Re: engine bay snapshots for V8 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_7097472b_4f002489$4532fa35 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Like this? >From: kmwatts >Reply-To: mustangii@topica.com >To: mustangii@topica.com >Subject: engine bay snapshots for V8 >Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 09:00:30 -0800 > >Would anyone have some pics of a vacant engine bay for a v8 stang >II?...just >want some reference pics is all..thanks in advance. >Kenneth Watts > > > > > >_____________________________________________________________ >Check out the new and improved Topica site! >http://www.topica.com/t/13 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 19:45:23 EST From: COBRAII976@aol.com Subject: Re: OT - False information Tim, The Problem is this ORG and NET are here for the same reasons but we do things different Tim and I were the drivig force behind this site for the simple fact that ORG was not living up to our standards and we have high standards. We want the II community to have the infomation they want and this list is supposed to stay focused and on topic. If this list ever gets to the point of the other one it will be shut down reformatted and moderated. I think both sites are in the same boat it's just org does not want to play nice. Stepping off my soap box Dave ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 20:45:19 EST From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Subject: Re: OT - False information hey..... let's all cool down and reevaluate our situation.. why here? we like mustang II's... so... if someone wants to talk some trash... fine... ignore them. fun huh? hehe... tanks folks... i like it here.... i love my stang II and i tink it love me now caz its running smooth ..... finally.... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 20:46:58 EST From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Subject: Re: OT - False information foget the fussin folks... time to talk mustang II's... k ------------------------------ End of mustangii@topica.com digest, issue 17 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 31 of 46 From: mustangii@topica.com Save Address -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To: mustangii@topica.com Subject: Digest for mustangii@topica.com, issue 18 Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 03:31:53 -0800 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Topica Digest -- GuestBook at MustangII.Net By MustangIIThousand@MustangII.Net Re: GuestBook at MustangII.Net By DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Re: GuestBook at MustangII.Net By D8Mach@yahoo.com Re: GuestBook at MustangII.Net By tgrahl@iocenter.net Re: GuestBook at MustangII.Net By DoUFeelThis2@aol.com MustangII.Net Does it Again!!! By MustangIIThousand@MustangII.Net help please By tglaser@ttu.edu ------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 08:14:51 -0800 From: "Dave Pillsbury" Subject: GuestBook at MustangII.Net Well the recent siging of the the Net guestbook leaves me to belive that someone is having some fun. MustangII.Org accused everyone here that uses the MustangII.Net site and mailing list of "slinging mud" towards them. I'm having a real problem with this seeing how Tim found the person that got our guestbook and there's and we delt with it. now it happens again to us. I think that MustangII.org owes us a formal appolgie and should stop posting garbage to our guestbook. If the webmaster at ORG would like to step up and take some action we will be glad to work with them. This is not about who has the better site it's all about the II I wish some childish people would relize that. Off the soapbox again ------------------------------------------------------------ Get your free email at the Mustang II Network http://www.mustangii.net ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 11:32:32 EST From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Subject: Re: GuestBook at MustangII.Net In a message dated 1/20/00 10:15:56 AM Central Standard Time, MustangIIThousand@MustangII.Net writes: << This is not about who has the better site it's all about the II >> U'r right. Who cares which organization sucs... we all want improved II's and to upswing the interest in our II's to the place in history they deserve.... A mustang II is noted in a collector magazine as "NOT A GOOD INVESTMENT.... (yet also mentions) "The Mustang II was the best sport car tradition of the 70's... 'far superior' to its rivals" end quote. I disagree with the comment of not being a good investment... u seldom see a II now... the cars are becoming rare... king tut's tooth is worth millions; why? its old and rare... a II is not King Tut yet... but many are very rare now... and parts are precious... so we need sources for parts guys.... more more more! Let's cut out the conversing on other organizations unless they can help us.... makes for better interchange here.... agree? Thanks always, vance... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 11:44:17 -0500 From: "Mark." Subject: Re: GuestBook at MustangII.Net Dave Pillsbury wrote: > Well the recent siging of the the Net guestbook leaves me to belive that someone is having some fun. MustangII.Org accused everyone here that uses the MustangII.Net site and mailing list of "slinging mud" towards them. I'm having a real problem with this seeing how Tim found the person that got our guestbook ..... Good. So you know it wasn't I. ;) About the guest book incident: Get over it. -- Mark. mailto:D8Mach@yahoo.com MustangII.Org Locale: http://www.bright.net/~rheschel/locator Never argue with a fool, a bystander can't tell you apart. ( Mark Twain ). When in doubt, Hit the throttle. It may not help, but it sure ends the suspense. ( Gaz?, rec.motorcycles ). __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 11:57:33 -0500 From: "Timothy M. Grahl" Subject: Re: GuestBook at MustangII.Net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00AF_01BF633D.8908BF70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think that should about do it for the Guestbook incident. The main purpose of the Mustang II Network is to provide Information on the Mustang II and to raise its reputation. We have no affiliation with the Mustang II Organization and I do not want the Network's resources spent on dealing with any problems they might have. I have a few new things in store for the Mustang II Network and would rather spend my time on developing new features. Please direct any more comments on the Guestbook incident to my personal email at tgrahl@iocenter.net if you wish to discuss them further. Thank You, Timothy M. Grahl Webmaster - Mustang II Network -----Original Message----- From: Mark. To: mustangii@topica.com Date: Thursday, January 20, 2000 11:43 AM Subject: Re: GuestBook at MustangII.Net Dave Pillsbury wrote: > Well the recent siging of the the Net guestbook leaves me to belive that someone is having some fun. MustangII.Org accused everyone here that uses the MustangII.Net site and mailing list of "slinging mud" towards them. I'm having a real problem with this seeing how Tim found the person that got our guestbook ..... Good. So you know it wasn't I. ;) About the guest book incident: Get over it. -- Mark. mailto:D8Mach@yahoo.com MustangII.Org Locale: http://www.bright.net/~rheschel/locator Never argue with a fool, a bystander can't tell you apart. ( Mark Twain ). When in doubt, Hit the throttle. It may not help, but it sure ends the suspense. ( Gaz?, rec.motorcycles ). __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com _____________________________________________________________ Check out the new and improved Topica site! http://www.topica.com/t/13 ------=_NextPart_000_00AF_01BF633D.8908BF70 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; name="Timothy M. Grahl.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Timothy M. Grahl.vcf" BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Grahl;Timothy;M. FN:Timothy M. Grahl ORG:Internet Operations Center;Web Development TITLE:Web Development and E-Commerce Specialist TEL;WORK;VOICE:248.204.8806 TEL;HOME;VOICE:313.533.1280 TEL;HOME;FAX:313.537.3536 ADR;WORK;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:;;200 Galleria = Officentre=3D0D=3D0ASuite 109;Southfield;Michigan;48240;USA LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:200 Galleria = Officentre=3D0D=3D0ASuite 109=3D0D=3D0ASouthfield, Michigan = 48240=3D0D=3D =3D0AUSA ADR;HOME:;;19964 Fox;Redford;MI;48240;USA LABEL;HOME;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:19964 Fox=3D0D=3D0ARedford, MI = 48240=3D0D=3D0AUSA URL:http://www.mustangii.net URL:http://www.iocenter.net EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:tgrahl@iocenter.net REV:20000120T165733Z END:VCARD ------=_NextPart_000_00AF_01BF633D.8908BF70-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 15:35:48 EST From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Subject: Re: GuestBook at MustangII.Net wow! Tim.. ur showing real Mind now.... i mean thoughts like telling everyone to shelve the controvery is what we needed.. thanks ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 19:24:57 -0800 From: "Dave Pillsbury" Subject: MustangII.Net Does it Again!!! MustangII.Net is proud to announce that we hold the OFFICIAL MCA registry for the Mustang II. MCA made us the Official registry today take a look at http://mustang.org/registry.html We hope to be working with Dale Rabe on the registy to provide window sticker info and window stickers. The registry will go live tommorow morning if you hit that link you can get a sneak peek and add your favorite II early. Like all other MustangII.Net endevors the registry is FREE and meets MCA requirementss. The Staff would like to thank all the II owners for making this site possible ------------------------------------------------------------ Get your free email at the Mustang II Network http://www.mustangii.net ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 01:35:03 -0600 From: Trent Glaser Subject: help please I am having a problem with my '77 Mustang II leaking gas fumes in the car it is very obnoxious and overwhelming. any suggestions where on the gas tank it could be leaking from? it isn't the fuel level sensor. Is there any way to fix sagging doors without buying new hinges? Thanks Trent P.S. I am a student on a tight budget ------------------------------ End of mustangii@topica.com digest, issue 18 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 30 of 46 From: mustangii@topica.com Save Address -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To: mustangii@topica.com Subject: Digest for mustangii@topica.com, issue 19 Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 03:31:53 -0800 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Topica Digest -- Re: help please By HD7480@altavista.com Re: MustangII.Net Does it Again!!! By DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Re: help please By tglaser@ttu.edu Re: help please By tglaser@ttu.edu Re: help please By HD7480@altavista.com ------------------------------------------------------------ Date: 21 Jan 2000 05:42:25 -0800 From: Tim Chandler Subject: Re: help please On Thu, 20 January 2000, Trent Glaser wrote: > > I am having a problem with my '77 Mustang II leaking gas fumes in the car it is very obnoxious and overwhelming. > any suggestions where on the gas tank it could be leaking from? it isn't the fuel level sensor. Is there any way > to fix sagging doors without buying new hinges? > Thanks > Trent > P.S. I am a student on a tight budget > Trent if it were mine I'd start checking all hoses and connections on the fuel system,also check the vacuam canister under the pass side fender,you can see it by looking through the opening when the pass side door is open,also check to see if the fuel pump is leaking gas out of it as they can rupture the seal,also check the bottom of the tank as they do get pin holes in them As for the door problem if you can lift up on the door when its open and it moves very much then the hinges are worn and probibly needs replaced HTH Later Tim > > > > _____________________________________________________________ > Check out the new and improved Topica site! > http://www.topica.com/t/13 ______________________________________________________________ Free Internet Access from AltaVista: Get it, share it & win! http://freeaccess.altavista.com/pika/www/initweb.jsp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 10:12:58 EST From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Subject: Re: MustangII.Net Does it Again!!! In a message dated 1/20/00 9:25:46 PM Central Standard Time, MustangIIThousand@MustangII.Net writes: << http://mustang.org/registry.html >> thanks ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 15:23:26 -0600 From: Trent Glaser Subject: Re: help please thank you for the info ----- Original Message ----- From: Tim Chandler To: Sent: Friday, January 21, 2000 7:42 AM Subject: Re: help please On Thu, 20 January 2000, Trent Glaser wrote: > > I am having a problem with my '77 Mustang II leaking gas fumes in the car it is very obnoxious and overwhelming. > any suggestions where on the gas tank it could be leaking from? it isn't the fuel level sensor. Is there any way > to fix sagging doors without buying new hinges? > Thanks > Trent > P.S. I am a student on a tight budget > Trent if it were mine I'd start checking all hoses and connections on the fuel system,also check the vacuam canister under the pass side fender,you can see it by looking through the opening when the pass side door is open,also check to see if the fuel pump is leaking gas out of it as they can rupture the seal,also check the bottom of the tank as they do get pin holes in them As for the door problem if you can lift up on the door when its open and it moves very much then the hinges are worn and probibly needs replaced HTH Later Tim > > > > _____________________________________________________________ > Check out the new and improved Topica site! > http://www.topica.com/t/13 ______________________________________________________________ Free Internet Access from AltaVista: Get it, share it & win! http://freeaccess.altavista.com/pika/www/initweb.jsp _____________________________________________________________ Check out the new and improved Topica site! http://www.topica.com/t/13 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 15:28:23 -0600 From: Trent Glaser Subject: Re: help please thank you for the info Trent ----- Original Message ----- From: Tim Chandler To: Sent: Friday, January 21, 2000 7:42 AM Subject: Re: help please On Thu, 20 January 2000, Trent Glaser wrote: > > I am having a problem with my '77 Mustang II leaking gas fumes in the car it is very obnoxious and overwhelming. > any suggestions where on the gas tank it could be leaking from? it isn't the fuel level sensor. Is there any way > to fix sagging doors without buying new hinges? > Thanks > Trent > P.S. I am a student on a tight budget > Trent if it were mine I'd start checking all hoses and connections on the fuel system,also check the vacuam canister under the pass side fender,you can see it by looking through the opening when the pass side door is open,also check to see if the fuel pump is leaking gas out of it as they can rupture the seal,also check the bottom of the tank as they do get pin holes in them As for the door problem if you can lift up on the door when its open and it moves very much then the hinges are worn and probibly needs replaced HTH Later Tim > > > > _____________________________________________________________ > Check out the new and improved Topica site! > http://www.topica.com/t/13 ______________________________________________________________ Free Internet Access from AltaVista: Get it, share it & win! http://freeaccess.altavista.com/pika/www/initweb.jsp _____________________________________________________________ Check out the new and improved Topica site! http://www.topica.com/t/13 ------------------------------ Date: 21 Jan 2000 16:02:45 -0800 From: Tim Chandler Subject: Re: help please On Fri, 21 January 2000, Trent Glaser wrote: > > thank you for the info > > Trent > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Tim Chandler > To: > Sent: Friday, January 21, 2000 7:42 AM > Subject: Re: help please > > > On Thu, 20 January 2000, Trent Glaser wrote: Trent Thats what were all about folks helpin folks with the problems with their II's Later Tim > > > > I am having a problem with my '77 Mustang II leaking gas fumes in the car it is very obnoxious and > overwhelming. > > any suggestions where on the gas tank it could be leaking from? it isn't the fuel level sensor. Is there any > way > > to fix sagging doors without buying new hinges? > > Thanks > > Trent > > P.S. I am a student on a tight budget > > > Trent if it were mine I'd start checking all hoses and connections on the fuel system,also check the vacuam > canister under the pass side fender,you can see it by looking through the opening when the pass side door is > open,also check to see if the fuel pump is leaking gas out of it as they can rupture the seal,also check the > bottom of the tank as they do get pin holes in them > As for the door problem if you can lift up on the door when its open and it moves very much then the hinges are > worn and probibly needs replaced > HTH Later Tim > > > > > > > > _____________________________________________________________ > > Check out the new and improved Topica site! > > http://www.topica.com/t/13 > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Free Internet Access from AltaVista: Get it, share it & win! > http://freeaccess.altavista.com/pika/www/initweb.jsp > > > > _____________________________________________________________ > Check out the new and improved Topica site! > http://www.topica.com/t/13 > > > > _____________________________________________________________ > Check out the new and improved Topica site! > http://www.topica.com/t/13 ______________________________________________________________ Free Internet Access from AltaVista: Get it, share it & win! http://freeaccess.altavista.com/pika/www/initweb.jsp ------------------------------ End of mustangii@topica.com digest, issue 19 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 29 of 46 From: mustangii@topica.com Save Address -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To: mustangii@topica.com Subject: Digest for mustangii@topica.com, issue 20 Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 03:31:12 -0800 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Topica Digest -- Re: help please By SSDSERV@AOL.COM Outage By stangii@mustangii.net Re: help please By DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Re: help please By tims302@hotmail.com RE: help please By jww159@mustangii.net Re: help please By jww159@mustangii.net ------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 15:51:21 EST From: SSDSERV@aol.com Subject: Re: help please I had a similar problem with my 77 Ghia.The charcole canister some times is able to vent into the door post areaon the left side. Check the canister and hoses.Hope I helped SSDSERV@AOL.COM ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 16:10:04 -0800 From: "Timothy Grahl" Subject: Outage The Guestbook, forums and classifieds are currently experiencing problems. Please be patient. Apparently my Server Admin needs to pay more attention. Might be time to find another service to host the site. Tim ------------------------------------------------------------ Get your free email at the Mustang II Network http://www.mustangii.net ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 22:51:48 EST From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Subject: Re: help please ANYONE UNDERSTAND THE CHOKE HEATER ON A V8; MY ENGINE IS HAVING TROUBLE WARMING UP AT START UP; I GOT A MANUAL CHOKE, BUT HAVE NOT PUT IT ON YET. A GUY TOLD ME IF I PUT ON THE MANUAL CHOKE I'M BY PASSING SOME EMISION STUFF... ITS A '76 STANG II...... SO IF SOMEONE CAN TELL ME HOW TO FIND THE ELECTRICAL CHOKE HEATER AND HOW TO REPLACE IT MYSELF I'D APPRECIATE IT; ALSO.... WHERE IS THE ACTUAL HORN; NOT AT THE STEERING WHEEL.... BUT THE BEEPER ITSELF.... CAN'T FIND IT UNDER THE HOOD.... THANKS ALWAYS (TIME FOR INSPECTION)... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 04:50:28 GMT From: "tim thompson" Subject: Re: help please Choke bimetal coil is inside a circular housing (usually black) on the right side of the carburetor. This assumes that you have the correct 2V carb on the engine. There should also be a metal preheat tube coming up from the right exhaust manifold to the housing. The horn is located on the left header panel support, directly ahead of the washer bottle, retained by the lower bolt. Should be able to see it by looking between the header/grille and the radiator support. Tim >From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com >Reply-To: mustangii@topica.com >To: mustangii@topica.com >Subject: Re: help please >Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 19:52:27 -0800 > >ANYONE UNDERSTAND THE CHOKE HEATER ON A V8; MY ENGINE IS HAVING TROUBLE >WARMING UP AT START UP; I GOT A MANUAL CHOKE, BUT HAVE NOT PUT IT ON YET. >A >GUY TOLD ME IF I PUT ON THE MANUAL CHOKE I'M BY PASSING SOME EMISION >STUFF... >ITS A '76 STANG II...... SO IF SOMEONE CAN TELL ME HOW TO FIND THE >ELECTRICAL >CHOKE HEATER AND HOW TO REPLACE IT MYSELF I'D APPRECIATE IT; ALSO.... WHERE >IS THE ACTUAL HORN; NOT AT THE STEERING WHEEL.... BUT THE BEEPER ITSELF.... >CAN'T FIND IT UNDER THE HOOD.... THANKS ALWAYS (TIME FOR INSPECTION)... > > >_____________________________________________________________ >Check out the new and improved Topica site! >http://www.topica.com/t/13 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 21:20:36 -0800 From: "Joseph Werner" Subject: RE: help please I am a student on a tight buget as well I feel your pain. I took the doors off an 83 mustang once the hinges if loosened between the car and hing could be slid around and agusted. I hope it helps! Joe >To: mustangii@topica.com >From: Trent Glaser >Subject: help please >Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 23:35:26 -0800 >Reply-To: mustangii@topica.com > >I am having a problem with my '77 Mustang II leaking gas fumes in the car it is very obnoxious and overwhelming. >any suggestions where on the gas tank it could be leaking from? it isn't the fuel level sensor. Is there any way >to fix sagging doors without buying new hinges? >Thanks >Trent >P.S. I am a student on a tight budget > > > > >_____________________________________________________________ >Check out the new and improved Topica site! >http://www.topica.com/t/13 ------------------------------------------------------------ Get your free email at the Mustang II Network http://www.mustangii.net ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 21:44:24 -0800 From: "Joseph Werner" Subject: Re: help please I have not yet done much work on my II yet but I had an 85 and the horn was under the driver side corter panal. I had a new N.Y. inspection done on my 78 cobraII after I put a manul choke on and it passed. Hope that's some help. Joe >To: mustangii@topica.com >From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com >Subject: Re: help please >Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 19:52:27 -0800 >Reply-To: mustangii@topica.com > >ANYONE UNDERSTAND THE CHOKE HEATER ON A V8; MY ENGINE IS HAVING TROUBLE >WARMING UP AT START UP; I GOT A MANUAL CHOKE, BUT HAVE NOT PUT IT ON YET. A >GUY TOLD ME IF I PUT ON THE MANUAL CHOKE I'M BY PASSING SOME EMISION STUFF... >ITS A '76 STANG II...... SO IF SOMEONE CAN TELL ME HOW TO FIND THE ELECTRICAL >CHOKE HEATER AND HOW TO REPLACE IT MYSELF I'D APPRECIATE IT; ALSO.... WHERE >IS THE ACTUAL HORN; NOT AT THE STEERING WHEEL.... BUT THE BEEPER ITSELF.... >CAN'T FIND IT UNDER THE HOOD.... THANKS ALWAYS (TIME FOR INSPECTION)... > > >_____________________________________________________________ >Check out the new and improved Topica site! >http://www.topica.com/t/13 ------------------------------------------------------------ Get your free email at the Mustang II Network http://www.mustangii.net ------------------------------ End of mustangii@topica.com digest, issue 20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 28 of 46 From: mustangii@topica.com Save Address -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To: mustangii@topica.com Subject: Digest for mustangii@topica.com, issue 21 Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 03:31:39 -0800 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Topica Digest -- Re: help please By tim-pam@williams-net.com Re: help please By SSDSERV@AOL.COM ------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 10:13:25 -0500 From: "Tim and Pam Allgire" Subject: Re: help please You should look for the horn between the grille & the radiator core support on the driver's side.Thats where it is on a 1977. -----Original Message----- From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com To: mustangii@topica.com Date: Saturday, January 22, 2000 10:54 PM Subject: Re: help please ANYONE UNDERSTAND THE CHOKE HEATER ON A V8; MY ENGINE IS HAVING TROUBLE WARMING UP AT START UP; I GOT A MANUAL CHOKE, BUT HAVE NOT PUT IT ON YET. A GUY TOLD ME IF I PUT ON THE MANUAL CHOKE I'M BY PASSING SOME EMISION STUFF... ITS A '76 STANG II...... SO IF SOMEONE CAN TELL ME HOW TO FIND THE ELECTRICAL CHOKE HEATER AND HOW TO REPLACE IT MYSELF I'D APPRECIATE IT; ALSO.... WHERE IS THE ACTUAL HORN; NOT AT THE STEERING WHEEL.... BUT THE BEEPER ITSELF.... CAN'T FIND IT UNDER THE HOOD.... THANKS ALWAYS (TIME FOR INSPECTION)... _____________________________________________________________ Check out the new and improved Topica site! http://www.topica.com/t/13 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 12:41:28 EST From: SSDSERV@aol.com Subject: Re: help please In a message dated 1/22/00 10:52:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, DoUFeelThis2@aol.com writes: << ITSELF >> Any good parts store will have the electric choke parts.It simply mounts on the manifold near the carb.You just have to make sure the wire is hot.That is the best place to start. The horn is mounted in front of the radiator support and behind the header.It is usually on the drivers side next to the headlight bucket. ------------------------------ End of mustangii@topica.com digest, issue 21 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 27 of 46 From: mustangii@topica.com Save Address -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To: mustangii@topica.com Subject: Digest for mustangii@topica.com, issue 22 Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 03:32:12 -0800 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Topica Digest -- Re: help please By DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Site Update By tgrahl@iocenter.net Re: help please By enwilkin@mail.pittstate.edu Re: help please By DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Re: Site Update By rebelmust@aol.com choke power feed By tims302@hotmail.com cobra gauges By dawizard66@aol.com Re: choke power feed By DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Re: help please By tims302@hotmail.com Re: Horn By tims302@hotmail.com RE: cobra gauges By moone100@chapman.edu RE: choke power feed By a351must@premier1.net Re: help please By manningtom@hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 11:30:13 EST From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Subject: Re: help please Thanks a hunk ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 15:07:31 -0500 From: "Timothy M. Grahl" Subject: Site Update This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0111_01BF667C.BC9BD3D0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0112_01BF667C.BC9BD3D0" ------=_NextPart_001_0112_01BF667C.BC9BD3D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It appears that the hosting service for the site is experiencing server = problems that are causing our CGI and Perl scripts to error out. Best = estimated repair time is Friday. I have switched the Guestbook, Forum = and Classified Ads to a different service. The Guestbook and = Classifieds have new features so we may keep the new service even if the = errors are repaired. The forum will probably revert to the old after = repairs. All old classifieds and guestbook entries are still intact = but not viewable or transferable. If you had an entry in either, and = want to re-enter it, please do so. =20 We apologize for these problems. 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Grahl ORG:Internet Operations Center;Web Development TITLE:Web Development and E-Commerce Specialist TEL;WORK;VOICE:248.204.8806 TEL;HOME;VOICE:313.533.1280 TEL;HOME;FAX:313.537.3536 ADR;WORK;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:;;200 Galleria = Officentre=3D0D=3D0ASuite 109;Southfield;Michigan;48240;USA LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:200 Galleria = Officentre=3D0D=3D0ASuite 109=3D0D=3D0ASouthfield, Michigan = 48240=3D0D=3D =3D0AUSA ADR;HOME:;;19964 Fox;Redford;MI;48240;USA LABEL;HOME;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:19964 Fox=3D0D=3D0ARedford, MI = 48240=3D0D=3D0AUSA URL:http://www.mustangii.net URL:http://www.iocenter.net EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:tgrahl@iocenter.net REV:20000124T200731Z END:VCARD ------=_NextPart_000_0111_01BF667C.BC9BD3D0-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 15:56:48 -0600 (CST) From: "Eric N. Wilkinson" Subject: Re: help please II Fans, Hello, I am a V8 II owner - a 351W to be precise. The horn is easily visible on the driver's side inner fender well, right out in the open. If you cannot find it, you probably don't have a horn - unless, of course, you hear a horn when you activate it. My 351W doesn't have a choke either. It can be a litte cantankerous when it is cold, but doesn't have any problems heating up. If it let to idle from a cold start it take about ten minutes to warm up. Eric ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 17:18:22 EST From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Subject: Re: help please I BOUGHT A BOOK AND FOUND OUT THE PROBLEM ON MY HORN; DUH... FUSE WAZ BLOWN... BUT; WHY? I WENT OUT TO START IT AWHILE A GO THE BATTERY WON'T CRANK IT... SO; SHORT? HMMM... DON'T KNOW ..... BUT.... ANYWAY..... I ALSO HAD THE HEATER ON AND PERHAPS A DRAIN IS THERE.... SO TURNED OFF THE HEATER; (ASKED GOD FOR WARM WEATHER TOMORROW)... AND WILL TRY TO SEE IF IT DRAINS AGAIN.... ABOUT THE CARBERATOR; I WAZ HOPING NOT TO INSTALL A MANUAL CHOKE (BORIN A HOLE, ETC., AND NOT STOCK) SO A MEHANIC IN ELECTRICAL REPAIR POINTED OUT TWO WIRES FROM MY ALTERNATOR, WHICH HAVE NO CONNECTIONS TO ANYTHING AND HE SAID ONE IS FOR THE CARB. CHOKE WARMER; BUT..... GOTTA TEST IT SO I DON'T BURN UP THE ALTERANATOR.... GOTTA GET MY MONEY TOGETHER UNLESS SOMEONE SMART CAN TELL ME HOW TO TEST AND WHERE? ANYONE KNOW??? THANKS AS ALWAYS... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 18:03:34 EST From: REBELMUST@aol.com Subject: Re: Site Update TIM,im still working on my parts list for your site,do i faxitto you or e-mail. will have it done tonight,thanks,steve at rebel mustang ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 00:59:28 GMT From: "tim thompson" Subject: choke power feed The correct lead will have power only when the engine is running. Key on only will not power choke. Engine must be running. I presume this is to prevent the choke from opening on a cold engine if key left on (listening to radio, etc). A test light should be sufficent. Tim >From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com TWO WIRES FROM MY ALTERNATOR, WHICH HAVE NO CONNECTIONS TO ANYTHING AND >HE SAID ONE IS FOR THE CARB. CHOKE WARMER; BUT..... GOTTA TEST IT SO I >DON'T >BURN UP THE ALTERANATOR.... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 20:02:36 EST From: DaWiZaRd66@aol.com Subject: cobra gauges i know this is a mustang II help line but i have a 1991 mustang gt and i wanna put cobra gauges on it howmuch would they cost, would i need to buy any special parts, can i put them on myself and if not around how much would the labor cost? thank u if u could help ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 20:13:32 EST From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Subject: Re: choke power feed thanks a hunk ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 01:14:21 GMT From: "tim thompson" Subject: Re: help please It's been moved. Factory installation is on left header panel support, lower bolt. Tim >From: "Eric N. Wilkinson" >II Fans, > >Hello, I am a V8 II owner - a 351W to be precise. The horn is easily >visible on the driver's side inner fender well, right out in the open. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 01:14:34 GMT From: "tim thompson" Subject: Re: Horn It's been moved. Factory installation is on left header panel support, lower bolt. Tim >From: "Eric N. Wilkinson" >II Fans, > >Hello, I am a V8 II owner - a 351W to be precise. The horn is easily >visible on the driver's side inner fender well, right out in the open. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 17:21:14 -0800 (PST) From: moone100@chapman.edu Subject: RE: cobra gauges If you are referring to the guages found on a '93 Cobra, I suggest you check either 5.0 Mustang or Mustang Illustrated magazine. 5.0 would probably be your best bet. -Paul >i know this is a mustang II help line but i have a 1991 mustang gt and i >wanna put cobra gauges on it howmuch would they cost, would i need to buy any >special parts, can i put them on myself and if not around how much would the >labor cost? thank u if u could help > > >_____________________________________________________________ >Check out the new and improved Topica site! >http://www.topica.com/t/13 > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 23:58:26 -0800 From: "Darryl Lang" Subject: RE: choke power feed To be even more specific, the Choke hooks to the Orange terminal on the alternator. There should also be a large guage wire connected to the battery, and another small wire that provides field power for the alternator. I wonder if your battery went dead because the alternator isn't charging...to check, start the car and rev it to 1500rpm. Check your battery voltage...it should read about 13.8 volts...you should be able to turn lights and accessories on without it dropping below 13.8 volts too. Darryl Lang mailto:a351must@premier1.net http://fp.premier1.net/a351must ICQ: 4945149, AOL IM:"a351must2" '74 Coupe 351W C4 '76 Coupe 351W C4 '77 Mach 1 5.0L HO 4spd '78 T-Top Rallye 2.3L EFI Turbo 5spd '78 Ghia (Future 351W 5spd) -----Original Message----- The correct lead will have power only when the engine is running. Key on only will not power choke. Engine must be running. I presume this is to prevent the choke from opening on a cold engine if key left on (listening to radio, etc). A test light should be sufficent. Tim >From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com TWO WIRES FROM MY ALTERNATOR, WHICH HAVE NO CONNECTIONS TO ANYTHING AND >HE SAID ONE IS FOR THE CARB. CHOKE WARMER; BUT..... GOTTA TEST IT SO I >DON'T >BURN UP THE ALTERANATOR.... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com _____________________________________________________________ Check out the new and improved Topica site! http://www.topica.com/t/13 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 00:21:30 PST From: "Tom Manning" Subject: Re: help please I to have a v8 II only a 302cid but it goes.I put a brand new carb on it recantly all the componants are there as per my 1976 ford mII shop manuals including the exshaust heat tube one problem i ran into was that the tube was pluged so i removed it rebored the hole and uilt a new slightly larger tube using brake line and a double flaring toll flaring and bending a new custom tube after all this it is still a cantankerous old v8 and requiors a good warm up in the winter but thats one of the prices that you pay to drive v8 power.pain for plesure you may say >From: "Eric N. Wilkinson" >Reply-To: mustangii@topica.com >To: mustangii@topica.com >Subject: Re: help please >Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 13:57:06 -0800 > >II Fans, > >Hello, I am a V8 II owner - a 351W to be precise. The horn is easily >visible on the driver's side inner fender well, right out in the open. If >you cannot find it, you probably don't have a horn - unless, of course, >you hear a horn when you activate it. > >My 351W doesn't have a choke either. It can be a litte cantankerous when >it is cold, but doesn't have any problems heating up. If it let to idle >from a cold start it take about ten minutes to warm up. > >Eric > > > > >_____________________________________________________________ >Check out the new and improved Topica site! >http://www.topica.com/t/13 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ End of mustangii@topica.com digest, issue 22 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 26 of 46 From: mustangii@topica.com Save Address -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To: mustangii@topica.com Subject: Digest for mustangii@topica.com, issue 23 Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 03:32:20 -0800 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Topica Digest -- Re: Site Update By tgrahl@iocenter.net Re: choke power feed By DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Re: help please By DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Re: Site Update By davisons@communityonline.net Re: Site Update By tgrahl@iocenter.net Re: interior quarters By Gr8pmkn1969@aol.com Re:choke q's By Gr8pmkn1969@aol.com Re: choke q's By D8Mach@yahoo.com Re: interior quarters By manningtom@hotmail.com ------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 08:16:05 -0500 From: "Timothy M. Grahl" Subject: Re: Site Update This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01BF670C.6D2D3150 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit E-mail is quicker and easier to import. If you can't email it, fax it to (313) 537-3536 -----Original Message----- From: rebelmust@aol.com To: mustangii@topica.com Date: Monday, January 24, 2000 6:04 PM Subject: Re: Site Update TIM,im still working on my parts list for your site,do i faxitto you or e-mail. will have it done tonight,thanks,steve at rebel mustang _____________________________________________________________ Check out the new and improved Topica site! http://www.topica.com/t/13 ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01BF670C.6D2D3150 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; name="Timothy M. Grahl.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Timothy M. Grahl.vcf" BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Grahl;Timothy;M. FN:Timothy M. Grahl ORG:Internet Operations Center;Web Development TITLE:Web Development and E-Commerce Specialist TEL;WORK;VOICE:248.204.8806 TEL;HOME;VOICE:313.533.1280 TEL;HOME;FAX:313.537.3536 ADR;WORK;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:;;200 Galleria = Officentre=3D0D=3D0ASuite 109;Southfield;Michigan;48240;USA LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:200 Galleria = Officentre=3D0D=3D0ASuite 109=3D0D=3D0ASouthfield, Michigan = 48240=3D0D=3D =3D0AUSA ADR;HOME:;;19964 Fox;Redford;MI;48240;USA LABEL;HOME;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:19964 Fox=3D0D=3D0ARedford, MI = 48240=3D0D=3D0AUSA URL:http://www.mustangii.net URL:http://www.iocenter.net EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:tgrahl@iocenter.net REV:20000125T131605Z END:VCARD ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01BF670C.6D2D3150-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 09:30:14 EST From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Subject: Re: choke power feed Thanks. ur information and the one earlier about the wire that is hot 'only when the engine runs' (the orange one as u say) is correct. thanks for being a mustang II guru.... very rare.... and better than a steak..... ur rare; not raw.... haha.. ok .... yuk joke huh? but thank u all for the help... now... question; i have white rear interior quarter panels which are rough; ( look like a bear was loose for a short time and scratched them); but not broken or split..... any one know how to cover over the big scracth marks and still retain a granular look? replace? if replace, where and how much? help.... thanks ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 09:32:54 EST From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Subject: Re: help please my carb is original.... but with it; (thanks to some guys here in our group)... i ran the orange wire from the alternator to the choke heater (side of carb) and it now chokes like a champ... also.... if ur's has no choke; think of a manual choke..... thanks ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 08:55:18 -0800 From: "DAVISONS" Subject: Re: Site Update Tim...I joined the site the other day and have not been able to open any of the files sent to me (.att) what do you use to open these with? thanks Steve Davison -----Original Message----- From: "Timothy M. Grahl" Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 05:17:37 -0800 Subject: Re: Site Update ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 12:01:39 -0500 From: "Timothy M. Grahl" Subject: Re: Site Update This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01BF672B.F00F9170 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Not sure which files you are referring to. Please forward the email / files to me. Tim -----Original Message----- From: davisons@communityonline.net To: mustangii@topica.com Date: Tuesday, January 25, 2000 11:53 AM Subject: Re: Site Update >Tim...I joined the site the other day and have not been able to open >any of the files sent to me (.att) what do you use to open these with? >thanks Steve Davison > >-----Original Message----- >From: "Timothy M. Grahl" >Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 05:17:37 -0800 >Subject: Re: Site Update > > > > >_____________________________________________________________ >Check out the new and improved Topica site! >http://www.topica.com/t/13 > ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01BF672B.F00F9170 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; name="Timothy M. Grahl.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Timothy M. Grahl.vcf" BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Grahl;Timothy;M. FN:Timothy M. Grahl ORG:Internet Operations Center;Web Development TITLE:Web Development and E-Commerce Specialist TEL;WORK;VOICE:248.204.8806 TEL;HOME;VOICE:313.533.1280 TEL;HOME;FAX:313.537.3536 ADR;WORK;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:;;200 Galleria = Officentre=3D0D=3D0ASuite 109;Southfield;Michigan;48240;USA LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:200 Galleria = Officentre=3D0D=3D0ASuite 109=3D0D=3D0ASouthfield, Michigan = 48240=3D0D=3D =3D0AUSA ADR;HOME:;;19964 Fox;Redford;MI;48240;USA LABEL;HOME;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:19964 Fox=3D0D=3D0ARedford, MI = 48240=3D0D=3D0AUSA URL:http://www.mustangii.net URL:http://www.iocenter.net EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:tgrahl@iocenter.net REV:20000125T170139Z END:VCARD ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01BF672B.F00F9170-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 22:59:04 EST From: Gr8pmkn1969@aol.com Subject: Re: interior quarters i dont know of any way to recondition the rear interior quarters i have had to look far and wide to find a pair in good shape ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 23:00:31 EST From: Gr8pmkn1969@aol.com Subject: Re:choke q's i installed a manual choke and put the control in the place of the cigarette lighter ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 23:27:42 -0500 From: "Mark." Subject: Re: choke q's Gr8pmkn1969@aol.com wrote: > i installed a manual choke and put the control in the place of the cigarette > lighter I installed a Holley 2 bbl on a 351 and did the same. Cept I smoke, so the knob was mounted using the 90 deg bracket included in the kit. I believe there is a screw used in the factory dash mounting located in the hump area, the bracket can be mounted there without additional holes in the dash panel. -- Mark. mailto:D8Mach@yahoo.com MustangII.Org Locale: http://www.bright.net/~rheschel/locator Never argue with a fool, a bystander can't tell you apart. ( Mark Twain ). When in doubt, Hit the throttle. It may not help, but it sure ends the suspense. ( Gaz?, rec.motorcycles ). __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 00:34:10 PST From: "Tom Manning" Subject: Re: interior quarters a buddy of mine is in the auto body bis and he knows someone who can repair and recondition bolth the foam and vinel although i would imagin that the color may be brighter warenting coloring all the panels no big deal i will get more info on the company name and location in closing my buddy claimes it isant to expensive >From: Gr8pmkn1969@aol.com >Reply-To: mustangii@topica.com >To: mustangii@topica.com >Subject: Re: interior quarters >Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 20:00:19 -0800 > >i dont know of any way to recondition the rear interior quarters i have had >to look far and wide to find a pair in good shape > > >_____________________________________________________________ >Check out the new and improved Topica site! >http://www.topica.com/t/13 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ End of mustangii@topica.com digest, issue 23 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 25 of 46 From: mustangii@topica.com Save Address -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To: mustangii@topica.com Subject: Digest for mustangii@topica.com, issue 24 Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 03:32:20 -0800 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Topica Digest -- Re: choke q's By DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Re: interior quarters By DoUFeelThis2@aol.com buck tag By Cor1580@aol.com Re: cobra gauges By tglaser@ttacs.ttu.edu Re: cobra gauges By a1977stang@aol.com ------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 19:46:47 EST From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Subject: Re: choke q's lighter area for the choke sounds good.. but mine has no ashtray and no lighter... so? thanks for a good idea... i wonder what happened to the ashtray and lighter.... 'non smokers?' ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 19:49:36 EST From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Subject: Re: interior quarters thanks; expense is important; but quality is more importnant.... thank u ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 22:04:53 EST From: COR1580@aol.com Subject: buck tag can anyone help me out have an EX before V8 on my buck tag its a 78 please help....... thanks in advance Corey ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 21:57:26 -0600 From: Trent Glaser Subject: Re: cobra gauges This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00C4_01BF6848.55685C60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I know these aren't cobra guages but I liked them and they were easy to do. Trent ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 23:34:25 EST From: A1977STANG@aol.com Subject: Re: cobra gauges Where did you find these gauges? ------------------------------ End of mustangii@topica.com digest, issue 24 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 24 of 46 From: mustangii@topica.com Save Address -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To: mustangii@topica.com Subject: Digest for mustangii@topica.com, issue 25 Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 03:32:10 -0800 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Topica Digest -- Re: cobra gauges By dawizard66@aol.com Re: cobra gauges By a1977stang@aol.com ------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 11:43:39 EST From: DaWiZaRd66@aol.com Subject: Re: cobra gauges i found them in mustang unlimited ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 23:44:57 EST From: A1977STANG@aol.com Subject: Re: cobra gauges thank for the info, Jim ------------------------------ End of mustangii@topica.com digest, issue 25 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 23 of 46 From: mustangii@topica.com Save Address -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To: mustangii@topica.com Subject: Digest for mustangii@topica.com, issue 26 Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 03:32:05 -0800 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Topica Digest -- Re: buck tag By DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Re: buck tag By Cor1580@aol.com Re: cobra gauges By DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Re: buck tag By Cobraii976@aol.com Re: cobra gauges By DoUFeelThis2@aol.com INSTRUMENT PANEL TRIM By BCSADER110@AOL.COM Re: INSTRUMENT PANEL TRIM By Cobraii976@aol.com Re: INSTRUMENT PANEL TRIM By BCSADER110@AOL.COM Re: INSTRUMENT PANEL TRIM By Cobraii976@aol.com Re: INSTRUMENT PANEL TRIM By BCSADER110@AOL.COM restoring plastic interior panels By a351must@premier1.net Re: INSTRUMENT PANEL TRIM By jkepling@gte.net Re: restoring plastic interior panels By jkepling@gte.net Re: INSTRUMENT PANEL TRIM By BCSADER110@AOL.COM Re: INSTRUMENT PANEL TRIM By Cobraii976@aol.com Re: INSTRUMENT PANEL TRIM By BCSADER110@AOL.COM Re: INSTRUMENT PANEL TRIM By Cobraii976@aol.com Re: cobra gauges By tglaser@ttu.edu Re: INSTRUMENT PANEL TRIM By tglaser@ttu.edu Re: INSTRUMENT PANEL TRIM By DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Re: INSTRUMENT PANEL TRIM By DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Re: INSTRUMENT PANEL TRIM By DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Re: cobra gauges By DoUFeelThis2@aol.com ------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 17:52:35 EST From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Subject: Re: buck tag wwhat is a buck tag? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 17:54:47 EST From: COR1580@aol.com Subject: Re: buck tag the tag on the radiator support ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 17:55:42 EST From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Subject: Re: cobra gauges i'm attempting to put a 2&1/16th oil pressure guage (chrmoe rimmed with white background) to match my other guages... i have a aftermarket in it now and no proper sending unit so i would like to get the mustang oil pressure guage at that size and chrom bezel with the sending unit; oil or electrice...... anyone know hwere i can go... ford house has none; nade; zip... so i need someone's guidance.... ball park price for total neeeds to be within 45ish range of dollars..... thantks to all.... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 17:56:43 EST From: COBRAII976@aol.com Subject: Re: buck tag buck tag: metal tag screwed to the radiator support on all Dearborn Built cars (F) it is located on the upper core support facing the car with hood up it will be on your right hand side between the header and the support about 2 inches wide and 3 long . The buck tag contains your build info and options. Dave the II guru ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 18:01:20 EST From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Subject: Re: cobra gauges in arlington (texas) there are 5 (five!!!) mustang shops ... exclusive to mustang.... EXCEPT guess which mustang's they sneer at and belly laugh over??? yep.... the mustang II... i told them the II is better; mine is lighter; better breaks; better handling front end.... looks prettier; is now more rare, and its owner love it rather than like it....... also in my case; a bigger motor (mine is a monster) and no catalectic converter required (1976)..... but they just looked mad..... some people!!! I knew a guy who once passed over bo derek to go over and jerk off.... same mentality; a II is the best mustang ever made..... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 19:35:28 EST From: BCSADER110@aol.com Subject: INSTRUMENT PANEL TRIM Hi, I am new to the list. I have a 78 mustang II fastback. Does anyone know where I can get a instrument trim panel in the brushed aluminum finish. Thanks. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 19:38:08 EST From: COBRAII976@aol.com Subject: Re: INSTRUMENT PANEL TRIM Right here ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 19:40:29 EST From: BCSADER110@aol.com Subject: Re: INSTRUMENT PANEL TRIM Thank you. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 19:42:47 EST From: COBRAII976@aol.com Subject: Re: INSTRUMENT PANEL TRIM welcome ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 20:05:08 EST From: BCSADER110@aol.com Subject: Re: INSTRUMENT PANEL TRIM How much do you want for it? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 17:49:47 -0800 From: "Darryl Lang (Entex)" Subject: restoring plastic interior panels Rick (PONYMAN) on MustangsandMore posted this today, and I think the procedure would work with our Mustang II interior panels... ------------------------------------------------------------ Thought I would share a way to resore these panels. Should help anyone with scratched and gouged panels, especially 71-73 owners cause they don't make them in repro. Sand or bead blast all the dead crystalized surface from these panels until smooth. Use fiberglass jelly to fill the low and scratched spots and fiberglass jel;ly and matting to fix broken or missing areas and sand smooth. Sand entire panel with 220 grit paper. Shoot entire panel with Duplicolor Truck Bed Liner from a spray can. This gives a texture that you can hardly distinguish from factory. If you have a black interior, you are through. If not then spray with Plasticote light gray flexible bumper primer, then coat with the proper interior color. This process makes them look awesome!!!. The foldown panels that I got for my car are rare, and they were broken and really scraped up. The above process returned them to like new appearance. Hope this helps someone. Rick ------------------------------------------------------------ Darryl ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 21:53:57 -0500 From: "James Keplinger" Subject: Re: INSTRUMENT PANEL TRIM welcome to the club! my name is Jason and I'm new to the network aswell. I've got a couple of bone yards around and I know of atleast one aluminum panel in them. I've got a 77 cobra with one it's alittle worn but still looks good I might consider selling it. -----Original Message----- From: BCSADER110@AOL.COM To: mustangii@topica.com Date: Friday, January 28, 2000 7:37 PM Subject: INSTRUMENT PANEL TRIM Hi, I am new to the list. I have a 78 mustang II fastback. Does anyone know where I can get a instrument trim panel in the brushed aluminum finish. Thanks. ______________________________________________ Faster, stronger and able to send millions of emails in one click: the new Topica site! http://www.topica.com/t/14 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 22:05:30 -0500 From: "James Keplinger" Subject: Re: restoring plastic interior panels Thanxs for the info. on the body panels. -----Original Message----- From: Darryl Lang (Entex) To: 'stangii@mustangii.org' ; 'mustangii@topica.com' Date: Friday, January 28, 2000 9:05 PM Subject: restoring plastic interior panels >Rick (PONYMAN) on MustangsandMore posted this today, and I think the >procedure would work with our Mustang II interior panels... > >------------------------------------------------------------ >Thought I would share a way to resore these panels. Should help anyone with >scratched and gouged panels, especially 71-73 owners cause they don't make >them in repro. Sand or bead blast all the dead crystalized surface from >these panels until smooth. Use fiberglass jelly to fill the low and >scratched spots and fiberglass jel;ly and matting to fix broken or missing >areas and sand smooth. Sand entire panel with 220 grit paper. Shoot entire >panel with Duplicolor Truck Bed Liner from a spray can. This gives a texture >that you can hardly distinguish from factory. If you have a black interior, >you are through. If not then spray with Plasticote light gray flexible >bumper primer, then coat with the proper interior color. This process makes >them look awesome!!!. The foldown panels that I got for my car are rare, and >they were broken and really scraped up. The above process returned them to >like new appearance. Hope this helps someone. Rick >------------------------------------------------------------ > >Darryl > > >______________________________________________ >Faster, stronger and able to send millions >of emails in one click: the new Topica site! >http://www.topica.com/t/14 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 23:06:32 EST From: BCSADER110@aol.com Subject: Re: INSTRUMENT PANEL TRIM HOW MUCH WOULD YOU CONSIDER SELLING IT FOR? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 23:07:53 EST From: COBRAII976@aol.com Subject: Re: INSTRUMENT PANEL TRIM 100 for the NOS 50 for the nice used ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 00:14:32 EST From: BCSADER110@aol.com Subject: Re: INSTRUMENT PANEL TRIM WHAT DOES NOS MEAN. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 00:16:35 EST From: COBRAII976@aol.com Subject: Re: INSTRUMENT PANEL TRIM NOS New Old Stock never been used still in a ford box almost like going to the dealer and buying a new one ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 00:40:45 -0600 From: Trent Glaser Subject: Re: cobra gauges I have never had so many strangers stop and want to talk before I started to drive my '77 Black hatchback II. Before the II I drove a '91 t-bird SC it was fast but I have to say it didn't get the looks, comments, or offers of my II. My II has a Paxton in it's future. My dad bought the car in '77 and it has stayed in the family since. It is the parts man that laughs when I say " 1977, Mustang II , V-8, 302". , but while out on the street it is his family and friends that talk about my II. Mustang owners are the first to bash the II but I have yet to see a mustang owner get comments on their car. Trent Thank ya'll for all the info ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 5:02 PM Subject: Re: cobra gauges in arlington (texas) there are 5 (five!!!) mustang shops ... exclusive to mustang.... EXCEPT guess which mustang's they sneer at and belly laugh over??? yep.... the mustang II... i told them the II is better; mine is lighter; better breaks; better handling front end.... looks prettier; is now more rare, and its owner love it rather than like it....... also in my case; a bigger motor (mine is a monster) and no catalectic converter required (1976)..... but they just looked mad..... some people!!! I knew a guy who once passed over bo derek to go over and jerk off.... same mentality; a II is the best mustang ever made..... ______________________________________________ Faster, stronger and able to send millions of emails in one click: the new Topica site! http://www.topica.com/t/14 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 00:53:58 -0600 From: Trent Glaser Subject: Re: INSTRUMENT PANEL TRIM I need a custom brushed aluminum finish dash piece. does any one know of a good metal shop with fair prices? ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, January 28, 2000 6:37 PM Subject: INSTRUMENT PANEL TRIM Hi, I am new to the list. I have a 78 mustang II fastback. Does anyone know where I can get a instrument trim panel in the brushed aluminum finish. Thanks. ______________________________________________ Faster, stronger and able to send millions of emails in one click: the new Topica site! http://www.topica.com/t/14 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 02:22:23 EST From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Subject: Re: INSTRUMENT PANEL TRIM nos = 'new' old stock ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 02:21:46 EST From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Subject: Re: INSTRUMENT PANEL TRIM i'd never sell my II..... never. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 02:23:32 EST From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Subject: Re: INSTRUMENT PANEL TRIM nos is new; just an item bought from a dealer clearing his old inventory of items seldom 'turned' in his annual inventory count.... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 02:27:12 EST From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Subject: Re: cobra gauges ur right about the comments ...... i had mine in for a complete front suspension rebuild.... got 4 offers.... low was $3500. i laughed... (front end rebuild was springs; shocks; all bushings; tie rod, etc. and an alignment.... $603.00 and it ride even better than new now..... but sell it? ha! not this boy. i love my baby and so do the girls..... best red crusier in dallas/ft.worth.... v8 an runs like the wind...... ------------------------------ End of mustangii@topica.com digest, issue 26 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 22 of 46 From: mustangii@topica.com Save Address -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To: mustangii@topica.com Subject: Digest for mustangii@topica.com, issue 27 Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 03:31:25 -0800 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Topica Digest -- Re: INSTRUMENT PANEL TRIM By JBoy911041@aol.com Re: INSTRUMENT PANEL TRIM By rebelmust@aol.com MustangII.Net By Cobraii976@aol.com Re: INSTRUMENT PANEL TRIM By SSDSERV@AOL.COM Re: INSTRUMENT PANEL TRIM By jkepling@gte.net Re: INSTRUMENT PANEL TRIM By cobra_2_76@yahoo.com Re: INSTRUMENT PANEL TRIM By RCStenic@prodigy.net Re: INSTRUMENT PANEL TRIM By Cobraii976@aol.com Mustang II Respect By molson@ibm.net Re: Mustang II Respect By JBoy911041@aol.com Re: Mustang II Respect By tim-pam@williams-net.com Fw: Mustang II Respect By tim-pam@williams-net.com Re: Mustang II Respect By jkepling@gte.net ------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 10:57:03 EST From: JBoy911041@aol.com Subject: Re: INSTRUMENT PANEL TRIM In the February 2000 issue of Cars & Parts magazine, CT Mustang II is advertising New Brushed Aluminum Dash Replacement 2 piece set for $89. Phone 203-377-4795. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 13:21:48 EST From: REBELMUST@aol.com Subject: Re: INSTRUMENT PANEL TRIM rebelmustang is a good source for good used inst. bezels,thay also sell a kit to re do your brushed alum. on your bezel. rebelmust@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 15:01:23 EST From: COBRAII976@aol.com Subject: MustangII.Net Well, some of you might have noticed a few parts of the site are down for maintenance and repairs. This will a temporary situation we are having a few updates done and some server problems taken care of. We apologize for any inconvenience this has cause and hope to be back to 100% by Monday. so it's gonna be a slow weekend here. Dave MustangII.Net ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 16:31:13 EST From: SSDSERV@aol.com Subject: Re: INSTRUMENT PANEL TRIM Second Generation Mustang sells almost any thing for Mustang IIs check out the links on Valley Forge Mustang club ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 17:53:29 -0500 From: "James Keplinger" Subject: Re: INSTRUMENT PANEL TRIM NEW OLD STOCK! (OLD DEALER / FACTORY PARTS STILL IN THE PACKAGES ) -----Original Message----- From: BCSADER110@AOL.COM To: mustangii@topica.com Date: Saturday, January 29, 2000 12:15 AM Subject: Re: INSTRUMENT PANEL TRIM WHAT DOES NOS MEAN. ______________________________________________ Faster, stronger and able to send millions of emails in one click: the new Topica site! http://www.topica.com/t/14 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 15:23:10 -0800 (PST) From: David Wilson Subject: Re: INSTRUMENT PANEL TRIM So I'll bite, how much for the kit to re-do the brushed aluminum face on the dash bezel. What is in the kit and what is it made of? How do you apply it? --- rebelmust@aol.com wrote: > rebelmustang is a good source for good used inst. > bezels,thay also sell a > kit to > re do your brushed alum. on your bezel. > rebelmust@aol.com > > > ______________________________________________ > Faster, stronger and able to send millions > of emails in one click: the new Topica site! > http://www.topica.com/t/14 > ===== Dave Wilson Cobra_2_76@yahoo.com My Cobra II, hosted by Dan Polk http://www.northpro.net/~polk/mii/ My home page is : http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Speedway/7500/index.html alt mail: Dwilson@ftmc.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 18:38:11 -0600 From: "Ralph C Stenic" Subject: Re: INSTRUMENT PANEL TRIM What is the web address to Vally Forge Mustang Club? ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2000 3:31 PM Subject: Re: INSTRUMENT PANEL TRIM > Second Generation Mustang sells almost any thing for Mustang IIs check out > the links on Valley Forge Mustang club > > > ______________________________________________ > Faster, stronger and able to send millions > of emails in one click: the new Topica site! > http://www.topica.com/t/14 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 18:45:05 EST From: COBRAII976@aol.com Subject: Re: INSTRUMENT PANEL TRIM here Second Generation Mustang PO Box 429 Bareview Drive Leola PA 17540 717-656-8081 Garry Bauum is his name he is also and MCA gold card judge. He will also be in the New MustangII.Com site coming up. Dave MustangII.Net ADE MustangII New Used NOS parts and Restorations ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 20:15:27 -0500 From: Matthew Olson Subject: Mustang II Respect I find it "fascinating" that first generation Mustang owners almost invariably laugh at the II. And yet, what's this? Kits to convert your first generation Mustang to Mustang II suspension and rack and pinion steering? If the II is so bad, why would you want to add parts from it to your "real" Mustang? On page 47 of the latest issue of Mustang Monthly the author wrote regarding a '72 Mustang coupe (and I quote): "Lean on the gas and the 302-2V small-block V-8 responds with ample power." Huh?!! We're talking about a Mustang weighing 3,000 lbs. with an engine that was rated at 136 bhp (net), much like the Mustang II (except that the Mustang II 302 was rated at 139 net bhp). But I have NEVER heard any Mustang magazine say a Mustang II has ample power. There might just be a little bias there, or maybe it's me. Of course, it's hard to be sure, what with all of those Mustang II specific tech articles gracing the pages of the Mustang mags (LOL, bitterly)... Funny thing is, I enjoy ALL Mustangs, and when it comes to those who love the first generation I say more power to them. Same for the Fox body and the SN95. But it would be nice if they would at least show us the same respect! Trent Glaser wrote: > > I have never had so many strangers stop and want to talk before I started to drive my '77 Black hatchback II. > Before the II I drove a '91 t-bird SC it was fast but I have to say it didn't get the looks, comments, or > offers of my II. My II has a Paxton in it's future. My dad bought the car in '77 and it has stayed in the family > since. It is the parts man that laughs when I say " 1977, Mustang II , V-8, 302". , but while out on the > street it is his family and friends that talk about my II. Mustang owners are the first to bash the II but I > have yet to see a mustang owner get comments on their car. > Trent -- Matt Olson ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 22:31:07 EST From: JBoy911041@aol.com Subject: Re: Mustang II Respect I agree with what you are saying, Matt. I've got a '76 Cobra II, an '86 Mustang GT convertible, and a '97 Mustang Convertible. All of them are great cars, and get plenty of looks and nice comments wherever I drive them. I like all the years of the Mustang. Just because some jerks with other type Mustangs diss' the II's is no reason to respond with negative remarks about the cars. It's the jerks who are making the uninformed comments, not their cars, that are not showing the II's the proper respect. Remember, never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig likes it. John Boyette Matt Olson wrote: I find it "fascinating" that first generation Mustang owners almost invariably laugh at the II. And yet, what's this? Kits to convert your first generation Mustang to Mustang II suspension and rack and pinion steering? If the II is so bad, why would you want to add parts from it to your "real" Mustang? On page 47 of the latest issue of Mustang Monthly the author wrote regarding a '72 Mustang coupe (and I quote): "Lean on the gas and the 302-2V small-block V-8 responds with ample power." Huh?!! We're talking about a Mustang weighing 3,000 lbs. with an engine that was rated at 136 bhp (net), much like the Mustang II (except that the Mustang II 302 was rated at 139 net bhp). But I have NEVER heard any Mustang magazine say a Mustang II has ample power. There might just be a little bias there, or maybe it's me. Of course, it's hard to be sure, what with all of those Mustang II specific tech articles gracing the pages of the Mustang mags (LOL, bitterly)... Funny thing is, I enjoy ALL Mustangs, and when it comes to those who love the first generation I say more power to them. Same for the Fox body and the SN95. But it would be nice if they would at least show us the same respect! Trent Glaser wrote: > > I have never had so many strangers stop and want to talk before I started to drive my '77 Black hatchback II. > Before the II I drove a '91 t-bird SC it was fast but I have to say it didn't get the looks, comments, or > offers of my II. My II has a Paxton in it's future. My dad bought the car in '77 and it has stayed in the family > since. It is the parts man that laughs when I say " 1977, Mustang II , V-8, 302". , but while out on the > street it is his family and friends that talk about my II. Mustang owners are the first to bash the II but I > have yet to see a mustang owner get comments on their car. > Trent -- Matt Olson ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 23:03:33 -0500 From: "Tim and Pam Allgire" Subject: Re: Mustang II Respect Hey Matt,I agree with you whole heartedly about the Mustang II.I don't own one myself but I think they are unique in their own way.My daughter owns a 1977 Mustang II with 56,000 orig. miles on it.She is the 2nd owner & it is her first car.It only has a 2.3L in it,but it is good enough for her first car.The car looks really good & she only paid $950.00 for it.It is a coupe(Ghia).Since she got it she has added the factory aluminum slot wheels with raised white letter Cooper Cobra tires & it sure made a difference in the way it looks.The car itself is dark green metallic with white interior.I myself like the Cobra II's, but they are hard to find any in this area(Northwest Ohio) that are in any good shape at all. Tim Allgire -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Olson To: mustangii@topica.com Date: Saturday, January 29, 2000 8:17 PM Subject: Mustang II Respect I find it "fascinating" that first generation Mustang owners almost invariably laugh at the II. And yet, what's this? Kits to convert your first generation Mustang to Mustang II suspension and rack and pinion steering? If the II is so bad, why would you want to add parts from it to your "real" Mustang? On page 47 of the latest issue of Mustang Monthly the author wrote regarding a '72 Mustang coupe (and I quote): "Lean on the gas and the 302-2V small-block V-8 responds with ample power." Huh?!! We're talking about a Mustang weighing 3,000 lbs. with an engine that was rated at 136 bhp (net), much like the Mustang II (except that the Mustang II 302 was rated at 139 net bhp). But I have NEVER heard any Mustang magazine say a Mustang II has ample power. There might just be a little bias there, or maybe it's me. Of course, it's hard to be sure, what with all of those Mustang II specific tech articles gracing the pages of the Mustang mags (LOL, bitterly)... Funny thing is, I enjoy ALL Mustangs, and when it comes to those who love the first generation I say more power to them. Same for the Fox body and the SN95. But it would be nice if they would at least show us the same respect! Trent Glaser wrote: > > I have never had so many strangers stop and want to talk before I started to drive my '77 Black hatchback II. > Before the II I drove a '91 t-bird SC it was fast but I have to say it didn't get the looks, comments, or > offers of my II. My II has a Paxton in it's future. My dad bought the car in '77 and it has stayed in the family > since. It is the parts man that laughs when I say " 1977, Mustang II , V-8, 302". , but while out on the > street it is his family and friends that talk about my II. Mustang owners are the first to bash the II but I > have yet to see a mustang owner get comments on their car. > Trent -- Matt Olson ______________________________________________ Faster, stronger and able to send millions of emails in one click: the new Topica site! http://www.topica.com/t/14 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 23:07:33 -0500 From: "Tim and Pam Allgire" Subject: Fw: Mustang II Respect -----Original Message----- From: Tim and Pam Allgire Date: Saturday, January 29, 2000 11:06 PM Subject: Fw: Mustang II Respect > >-----Original Message----- >From: Tim and Pam Allgire >To: mustangii@topica.com >Date: Saturday, January 29, 2000 11:03 PM >Subject: Re: Mustang II Respect > > >>Hey Matt,I agree with you whole heartedly about the Mustang II.I don't own >>one myself but I think they are unique in their own way.My daughter owns a >>1977 Mustang II with 56,000 orig. miles on it.She is the 2nd owner & it is >>her first car.It only has a 2.3L in it,but it is good enough for her first >>car.The car looks really good & she only paid $950.00 for it.It is a >>coupe(Ghia).Since she got it she has added the factory aluminum slot wheels >>with raised white letter Cooper Cobra tires & it sure made a difference in >>the way it looks.The car itself is dark green metallic with white >interior.I >>myself like the Cobra II's, but they are hard to find any in this >>area(Northwest Ohio) that are in any good shape at all. >>Tim Allgire >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Matthew Olson >>To: mustangii@topica.com >>Date: Saturday, January 29, 2000 8:17 PM >>Subject: Mustang II Respect >> >> >>I find it "fascinating" that first generation Mustang owners almost >>invariably laugh at the II. And yet, what's this? Kits to convert your >>first generation Mustang to Mustang II suspension and rack and pinion >>steering? If the II is so bad, why would you want to add parts from it >>to your "real" Mustang? On page 47 of the latest issue of Mustang >>Monthly the author wrote regarding a '72 Mustang coupe (and I quote): >>"Lean on the gas and the 302-2V small-block V-8 responds with ample >>power." Huh?!! We're talking about a Mustang weighing 3,000 lbs. with >>an engine that was rated at 136 bhp (net), much like the Mustang II >>(except that the Mustang II 302 was rated at 139 net bhp). But I have >>NEVER heard any Mustang magazine say a Mustang II has ample power. >>There might just be a little bias there, or maybe it's me. Of course, >>it's hard to be sure, what with all of those Mustang II specific tech >>articles gracing the pages of the Mustang mags (LOL, bitterly)... Funny >>thing is, I enjoy ALL Mustangs, and when it comes to those who love the >>first generation I say more power to them. Same for the Fox body and >>the SN95. But it would be nice if they would at least show us the same >>respect! >> >>Trent Glaser wrote: >>> >>> I have never had so many strangers stop and want to talk before I started >>to drive my '77 Black hatchback II. >>> Before the II I drove a '91 t-bird SC it was fast but I have to say it >>didn't get the looks, comments, or >>> offers of my II. My II has a Paxton in it's future. My dad bought the car >>in '77 and it has stayed in the family >>> since. It is the parts man that laughs when I say " 1977, Mustang II , >>V-8, 302". , but while out on the >>> street it is his family and friends that talk about my II. Mustang owners >>are the first to bash the II but I >>> have yet to see a mustang owner get comments on their car. >>> Trent >> >>-- >> >>Matt Olson >> >> >>______________________________________________ >>Faster, stronger and able to send millions >>of emails in one click: the new Topica site! >>http://www.topica.com/t/14 >> >> > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 23:20:13 -0500 From: "James Keplinger" Subject: Re: Mustang II Respect I TO GET THE NEGATIVE COMMENTS ABOUT THE II'S BUT IT'S USUALLY FROM THOSE PEOPLE THAT HAVE NEVER OWNED OR UNDERSTOOD WHAT THE II'S OFFERED FOR THERE DAY. THE MAIN REASON FOR THE BAD REP. IS BECAUSE OF THE QUICK REDUCTION OF "FACTORY HORSE POWER" OVER THE 60'S MODELS AND GOVERNMENT REGULATION SAYING THAT YOU CAN'T BUILD IT UP WITH OUT FINES! BUT I'VE OWNED A 67 FASTBACK, 87 GT, 86 AND 83 CONVERTIBLES, BUT NONE OF THEM WOULD HOLD A CANDLE TO THE 77 V8 HB, 77 351 PINTO CRUISER WAGON ,OR MY CURRENT 76 COBRA II. I LOVE FORDS OF ALL KINDS BUT I HAVE TO SAY THAT MUSTANG II'S ARE MY FAVORITE! PS: I NEED REAR QUARTER LOUVERS, AND REAR GLASS LOUVERS FOR MY II. EX WIFE TRASHED MINE! KEEP THOSE CHEVY'S IN YOUR REAR VIEWS JASON -----Original Message----- From: JBoy911041@aol.com To: mustangii@topica.com Date: Saturday, January 29, 2000 10:31 PM Subject: Re: Mustang II Respect I agree with what you are saying, Matt. I've got a '76 Cobra II, an '86 Mustang GT convertible, and a '97 Mustang Convertible. All of them are great cars, and get plenty of looks and nice comments wherever I drive them. I like all the years of the Mustang. Just because some jerks with other type Mustangs diss' the II's is no reason to respond with negative remarks about the cars. It's the jerks who are making the uninformed comments, not their cars, that are not showing the II's the proper respect. Remember, never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig likes it. John Boyette Matt Olson wrote: I find it "fascinating" that first generation Mustang owners almost invariably laugh at the II. And yet, what's this? Kits to convert your first generation Mustang to Mustang II suspension and rack and pinion steering? If the II is so bad, why would you want to add parts from it to your "real" Mustang? On page 47 of the latest issue of Mustang Monthly the author wrote regarding a '72 Mustang coupe (and I quote): "Lean on the gas and the 302-2V small-block V-8 responds with ample power." Huh?!! We're talking about a Mustang weighing 3,000 lbs. with an engine that was rated at 136 bhp (net), much like the Mustang II (except that the Mustang II 302 was rated at 139 net bhp). But I have NEVER heard any Mustang magazine say a Mustang II has ample power. There might just be a little bias there, or maybe it's me. Of course, it's hard to be sure, what with all of those Mustang II specific tech articles gracing the pages of the Mustang mags (LOL, bitterly)... Funny thing is, I enjoy ALL Mustangs, and when it comes to those who love the first generation I say more power to them. Same for the Fox body and the SN95. But it would be nice if they would at least show us the same respect! Trent Glaser wrote: > > I have never had so many strangers stop and want to talk before I started to drive my '77 Black hatchback II. > Before the II I drove a '91 t-bird SC it was fast but I have to say it didn't get the looks, comments, or > offers of my II. My II has a Paxton in it's future. My dad bought the car in '77 and it has stayed in the family > since. It is the parts man that laughs when I say " 1977, Mustang II , V-8, 302". , but while out on the > street it is his family and friends that talk about my II. Mustang owners are the first to bash the II but I > have yet to see a mustang owner get comments on their car. > Trent -- Matt Olson ______________________________________________ Faster, stronger and able to send millions of emails in one click: the new Topica site! http://www.topica.com/t/14 ------------------------------ End of mustangii@topica.com digest, issue 27 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 21 of 46 From: mustangii@topica.com Save Address -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To: mustangii@topica.com Subject: Digest for mustangii@topica.com, issue 28 Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 03:31:36 -0800 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Topica Digest -- Re: Mustang II Respect By enwilkin@mail.pittstate.edu Re: Mustang II Respect By RCStenic@prodigy.net Re: Mustang II Respect By Cobraii976@aol.com Re: Mustang II Respect By SSDSERV@AOL.COM Re: choke q's By jww159@mustangii.net Cross Member By jww159@mustangii.net Re: Mustang II Respect By zstlkr@aol.com Re: Mustang II Respect By jkepling@gte.net Re: Cross Member By jkepling@gte.net Re: Mustang II Respect By DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Re: Mustang II Respect By molson@ibm.net Re: Mustang II Respect By RCStenic@prodigy.net Re: Mustang II Respect By Cobraii976@aol.com Re: Mustang II Respect By RCStenic@prodigy.net Re: Mustang II Respect By RCStenic@prodigy.net Re: ssdserv By jkepling@gte.net Re: Louvers By jkepling@gte.net Re: Louvers By Cobraii976@aol.com Re: Louvers By jkepling@gte.net Re: Louvers By Cobraii976@aol.com Re: Cross Member By jww159@mustangii.net dual exhaust By Gr8pmkn1969@aol.com Re: Louvers By Gr8pmkn1969@aol.com Re: dual exhaust By aglorios@bobcat.bradley.edu Re: dual exhaust By D8Mach@yahoo.com Re: dual exhaust By aglorios@bobcat.bradley.edu ------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 14:27:03 -0600 (CST) From: "Eric N. Wilkinson" Subject: Re: Mustang II Respect II Fans, While watching a History Channel special on Mustangs just today, I was surprised to learn that the Mustang II was named 'Car of the Year' by Motor Trend magazine when it was first introduced. But to be honest, I can understand where the derision originates. The mid seventies were a time of change and without the proper technology to achieve the desired emmissions and fuel consumption levels every car in that era is an easy target - Fords, Chryslers, and Chevys all included. What did I just read? - a 302 developing a whopping 136HP? Smog equipment and carbs. do not mix well at all. I did not buy this car (a '77 II w/351W) because I am a Ford man or a Mustang man or a II man. I bought this car because it's light weight and good suspension PERFORM when mated with an unrestricted V8. What other make of car is so light and accepts a V8 so easily. Just try to change the plugs on a V8 Monza, for instance. In short, its a little car with a big heart thats got it where it counts - PERFORMANCE! Eric ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 15:49:43 -0600 From: "Ralph C Stenic" Subject: Re: Mustang II Respect I just want to say I have grown to love the Mustang II. When my mother bought hers in 97 at the woodward cruise I thought she was nuts. But since then I started to do the restoration work on the vehicle I have grown to love the car. I just recently bought 2 II's for parts and one is in damn good shape yet and i have been thinking of building that one for my self. When I tell other so called hotrod enthusiasts of my project they laugh and say why bother it is just a piece of junk car that Ford produced. then ask them what kind of suspension is under there street rod and they quitly say Mustang II. Ralph ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric N. Wilkinson" To: Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2000 2:27 PM Subject: Re: Mustang II Respect > II Fans, > > While watching a History Channel special on Mustangs just today, I was > surprised to learn that the Mustang II was named 'Car of the Year' by > Motor Trend magazine when it was first introduced. > > But to be honest, I can understand where the derision originates. The mid > seventies were a time of change and without the proper technology to > achieve the desired emmissions and fuel consumption levels every car in > that era is an easy target - Fords, Chryslers, and Chevys all included. > What did I just read? - a 302 developing a whopping 136HP? Smog equipment > and carbs. do not mix well at all. > > I did not buy this car (a '77 II w/351W) because I am a Ford man or a > Mustang man or a II man. I bought this car because it's light weight and > good suspension PERFORM when mated with an unrestricted V8. What other > make of car is so light and accepts a V8 so easily. Just try to change > the plugs on a V8 Monza, for instance. In short, its a little car with a > big heart thats got it where it counts - PERFORMANCE! > > Eric > > > > > ______________________________________________ > Faster, stronger and able to send millions > of emails in one click: the new Topica site! > http://www.topica.com/t/14 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 15:44:01 EST From: COBRAII976@aol.com Subject: Re: Mustang II Respect Ralph, Where are you located? Dave ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 16:23:51 EST From: SSDSERV@aol.com Subject: Re: Mustang II Respect I once was stopped in front of a Ford dealership waiting for a red light.One of the salesmen ran into the street and asked what my 77 Ghia was.I replied" its a Mustang II". He replied,"Oh this is one of those Pinto Mustangs".After laying a 30second line lock in the middle of the street,and almost running his foot over,I asked if he has ever seen a Pinto do that?Then I left because the light finally turned. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 13:51:05 -0800 From: "Joseph Werner" Subject: Re: choke q's I don't mean to cut in on a diolog but I have my manule choak bolted to the mettal braket that holds up the dash. Don't know if thats any help but I hope it is. Joe >To: mustangii@topica.com >From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com >Subject: Re: choke q's >Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 16:48:13 -0800 >Reply-To: mustangii@topica.com > >lighter area for the choke sounds good.. but mine has no ashtray and no >lighter... so? thanks for a good idea... i wonder what happened to the >ashtray and lighter.... 'non smokers?' > > >_____________________________________________________________ >Check out the new and improved Topica site! >http://www.topica.com/t/13 ------------------------------------------------------------ Get your free email at the Mustang II Network http://www.mustangii.net ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 14:33:02 -0800 From: "Joseph Werner" Subject: Cross Member I am trying to fix a bent cross member I was wondering if I could unbult it or if it is welded in. I was also wndering how to go about fixing it the previous owner ran it in to a rock. Joe ------------------------------------------------------------ Get your free email at the Mustang II Network http://www.mustangii.net ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 17:54:38 EST From: ZSTLKR@aol.com Subject: Re: Mustang II Respect i have one side with the cobra on it if intrested I want 20.00 for it plus shipping chuck ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 19:43:17 -0500 From: "James Keplinger" Subject: Re: Mustang II Respect HEY CHUCK ! ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT REAR QUARTER LOUVERS? JASON -----Original Message----- From: zstlkr@aol.com To: mustangii@topica.com Date: Sunday, January 30, 2000 5:55 PM Subject: Re: Mustang II Respect i have one side with the cobra on it if intrested I want 20.00 for it plus shipping chuck ______________________________________________ Faster, stronger and able to send millions of emails in one click: the new Topica site! http://www.topica.com/t/14 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 19:44:10 -0500 From: "James Keplinger" Subject: Re: Cross Member WHICH CROSS MEMBER ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? JASON -----Original Message----- From: Joseph Werner To: mustangii@topica.com Date: Sunday, January 30, 2000 5:33 PM Subject: Cross Member I am trying to fix a bent cross member I was wondering if I could unbult it or if it is welded in. I was also wndering how to go about fixing it the previous owner ran it in to a rock. Joe ------------------------------------------------------------ Get your free email at the Mustang II Network http://www.mustangii.net ______________________________________________ Faster, stronger and able to send millions of emails in one click: the new Topica site! http://www.topica.com/t/14 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 20:13:12 EST From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Subject: Re: Mustang II Respect i am not sure about other states; yesterday i had mine inspected; they said the twin converters were no longer required.... so.... after the sticker... i spent 272.00 and no cats; and a flow master ... (no room for duels) but i can actually feel the difference in thrust.... but ..... in two years.... i think i'll go for $1,000 heads an fuel injection.... anyone got ideas on this?..... and i love my II...... its fun; gets lots of stares (not glares)... and i only see speedsters in my rear view mirror...... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 19:46:09 -0500 From: Matthew Olson Subject: Re: Mustang II Respect You got the point exactly, Eric. I wasn't trying to be negative. I just get frustrated when the Mustang II is taken out of context. It was tremendously difficult to get a car to perform well in the 70's. The Z28 with a 350 and a four barrel could barely manage a 15.4 second quarter mile! Today's Camaro will run mid 13's all day long on street tires. But the potential for the Mustang II is nearly unlimited; much more so than other small cars of the era. It would be possible, for instance, to install a twin-turbo EFI 302 in a Mustang II which would develop nearly 1,000 horsepower without having to cut the car to pieces (ooh, now there's an idea...). Given the difficulties of the new regulations which came about in the 70's, the Mustang II wasn't just a good car, it was a great car. Eric N. Wilkinson wrote: > > II Fans, > > While watching a History Channel special on Mustangs just today, I was > surprised to learn that the Mustang II was named 'Car of the Year' by > Motor Trend magazine when it was first introduced. > > But to be honest, I can understand where the derision originates. The mid > seventies were a time of change and without the proper technology to > achieve the desired emmissions and fuel consumption levels every car in > that era is an easy target - Fords, Chryslers, and Chevys all included. > What did I just read? - a 302 developing a whopping 136HP? Smog equipment > and carbs. do not mix well at all. > > I did not buy this car (a '77 II w/351W) because I am a Ford man or a > Mustang man or a II man. I bought this car because it's light weight and > good suspension PERFORM when mated with an unrestricted V8. What other > make of car is so light and accepts a V8 so easily. Just try to change > the plugs on a V8 Monza, for instance. In short, its a little car with a > big heart thats got it where it counts - PERFORMANCE! > > Eric > > ______________________________________________ > Faster, stronger and able to send millions > of emails in one click: the new Topica site! > http://www.topica.com/t/14 -- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 20:45:04 -0600 From: "Ralph C Stenic" Subject: Re: Mustang II Respect Oak Park Michigan ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2000 2:44 PM Subject: Re: Mustang II Respect > Ralph, > Where are you located? > Dave > > > ______________________________________________ > Faster, stronger and able to send millions > of emails in one click: the new Topica site! > http://www.topica.com/t/14 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 20:38:48 EST From: COBRAII976@aol.com Subject: Re: Mustang II Respect Ok another Michigan Mustang II I don't know and it's business as the Local Mustang II man to know them all. Ralph I shall hunt you down and view your II. I'm in Auburn Hills the moron that does all the work on the Site is Tim he is in Redford. Have you joined MOCSEM yet? Dave ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 20:50:06 -0600 From: "Ralph C Stenic" Subject: Re: Mustang II Respect Any good exhaust shop can custom bend dual exhaust for the II's. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2000 7:13 PM Subject: Re: Mustang II Respect > i am not sure about other states; yesterday i had mine inspected; they said > the twin converters were no longer required.... so.... after the sticker... i > spent 272.00 and no cats; and a flow master ... (no room for duels) but i can > actually feel the difference in thrust.... but ..... in two years.... i > think i'll go for $1,000 heads an fuel injection.... anyone got ideas on > this?..... and i love my II...... its fun; gets lots of stares (not > glares)... and i only see speedsters in my rear view mirror...... > > > ______________________________________________ > Faster, stronger and able to send millions > of emails in one click: the new Topica site! > http://www.topica.com/t/14 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 20:56:34 -0600 From: "Ralph C Stenic" Subject: Re: Mustang II Respect No sir I have not joined any clubs as of yet. The II that I am currently working on is in several pieces as of right now. But if you would like to see it you can e-mail me at rcstenic@prodigy.net I am in the process of striping the car and reading it for sand blasting. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2000 7:39 PM Subject: Re: Mustang II Respect > Ok another Michigan Mustang II I don't know and it's business as the Local > Mustang II man to know them all. Ralph I shall hunt you down and view your > II. > I'm in Auburn Hills the moron that does all the work on the Site is Tim he is > in Redford. Have you joined MOCSEM yet? > Dave > > > ______________________________________________ > Faster, stronger and able to send millions > of emails in one click: the new Topica site! > http://www.topica.com/t/14 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 21:42:45 -0500 From: "James Keplinger" Subject: Re: ssdserv Reply to ssderv, I have a pinto cruiser wagon with a 351w, fenderwell headers, high rise 4V, 3" flows, 462 8" pos., 5-speed, 295/50/15's . It'll do a 2nd gear well stand! so I guess "I" have seen a pinto do that! no disrespect to your mustang II of course. I have got my own II that I love as Well 76 Cobra II. It is currently equipped with a 87HO block, 70 Boss forged crank, Ross rods, ported dart II heads 202/160, 30 over TRW forged pistons, B303 Roller cam, Hooker headers, 4-speed, 355 pos. 8" rear. This spring I plan on Shaving the heads 0.020 more doing more port work , installing Edelbrock F28 ( 2 - 4V ) intake with two 1404 Edelbrock performer carbs. and going up to 410 gears. I hope I dont rip to many trannies out!! Jason -----Original Message----- From: SSDSERV@AOL.COM To: mustangii@topica.com Date: Sunday, January 30, 2000 4:24 PM Subject: Re: Mustang II Respect I once was stopped in front of a Ford dealership waiting for a red light.One of the salesmen ran into the street and asked what my 77 Ghia was.I replied" its a Mustang II". He replied,"Oh this is one of those Pinto Mustangs".After laying a 30second line lock in the middle of the street,and almost running his foot over,I asked if he has ever seen a Pinto do that?Then I left because the light finally turned. ______________________________________________ Faster, stronger and able to send millions of emails in one click: the new Topica site! http://www.topica.com/t/14 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 21:51:54 -0500 From: "James Keplinger" Subject: Re: Louvers Are the rear quarter louvers for t-top cars shorter than regular hb II's Jason Faster, stronger and able to send millions of emails in one click: the new Topica site! http://www.topica.com/t/14 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 21:59:47 EST From: COBRAII976@aol.com Subject: Re: Louvers T-Top car with Targa bands have shorter louvers then snon targa cars Dave 76 CobraII ADE MustangII New Used Repro parts and Restoration services. www.MustangII.Net www.MOCSEM.Com ICQ #24507973 AOL IM Cobraii976 MSN Messenger ADEMUSTANGII ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 22:50:19 -0500 From: "James Keplinger" Subject: Re: Louvers Thanks for the info. I need some help finding louvers for my II. It has the targa strip w/t-tops. Theres not many twos left in the bone yards around here much less t-top II's Jason -----Original Message----- From: Cobraii976@aol.com To: mustangii@topica.com Date: Sunday, January 30, 2000 10:00 PM Subject: Re: Louvers T-Top car with Targa bands have shorter louvers then snon targa cars Dave 76 CobraII ADE MustangII New Used Repro parts and Restoration services. www.MustangII.Net www.MOCSEM.Com ICQ #24507973 AOL IM Cobraii976 MSN Messenger ADEMUSTANGII ______________________________________________ Faster, stronger and able to send millions of emails in one click: the new Topica site! http://www.topica.com/t/14 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 22:58:21 EST From: COBRAII976@aol.com Subject: Re: Louvers there are a few here LOL Dave 76 CobraII ADE MustangII New Used Repro parts and Restoration services. www.MustangII.Net www.MOCSEM.Com ICQ #24507973 AOL IM Cobraii976 MSN Messenger ADEMUSTANGII ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 20:25:59 -0800 From: "Joseph Werner" Subject: Re: Cross Member I am talking about the cross member in the front under the engen. >To: mustangii@topica.com >From: James Keplinger >Subject: Re: Cross Member >Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 16:51:02 -0800 >Reply-To: mustangii@topica.com > >WHICH CROSS MEMBER ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? > >JASON >-----Original Message----- >From: Joseph Werner >To: mustangii@topica.com >Date: Sunday, January 30, 2000 5:33 PM >Subject: Cross Member > > > I am trying to fix a bent cross member I was wondering if I could unbult >it or if it is welded in. I was also wndering how to go about fixing it the >previous owner ran it in to a rock. > Joe > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------ >Get your free email at the Mustang II Network >http://www.mustangii.net > > >______________________________________________ >Faster, stronger and able to send millions >of emails in one click: the new Topica site! >http://www.topica.com/t/14 > > > >______________________________________________ >Faster, stronger and able to send millions >of emails in one click: the new Topica site! >http://www.topica.com/t/14 ------------------------------------------------------------ Get your free email at the Mustang II Network http://www.mustangii.net ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 00:27:34 EST From: Gr8pmkn1969@aol.com Subject: dual exhaust Any tubing over 2 inch is extremely diffucult to put over the axle. Especially if you want to take it out both sides. Eugene, 78 king ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 00:30:25 EST From: Gr8pmkn1969@aol.com Subject: Re: Louvers I think that the side louvers can be trimmed to fit a T-Top car even if they were originally installed on a non T-Top car. Eugene, 78 King ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 23:58:30 -0600 From: Tony Gloriosa Subject: Re: dual exhaust Hi there, My name is Tony. I'm new to the list here. I have a '77 mach 1 with a 302 4-spd. What caught my attention was the question about dual exhaust out the back of a II. I have seen it done only once, and that was by a guy who was a welder and bender by trade. He did it on his '76 cobra II. He mentioned he was restricted to a 2" pipe not only because of over the axle but because he could not fit a larger pipe in between the leaf spring and gas tank on the driver's side correctly. I decided to avoid that headache on my mach by running pipes out both sides before the rear wheels. This will also allow you to run larger pipes. I also have a question for everyone out there. My car is a 97/100 point car (street driven judging, it's unrestored too!) and one of the things I need to eek out those last few points is a correct set of plug wires. Right now I have gray wires with black boots (generic 5.0 wires from the '80s). The correct wires I need are the blue wires with the black boot at the distributor and the orange boot at the plugs. Is there anyone out there that has a set for the 302 in stock or can fabricate them? I tried Mustang of Chicago and waited for 3 months only for them to tell me they couldn't come up with the correct set and color. Any help on this would be appreciated. If anyone is interested there are a couple of pictures of my car on the stallions gate mustang club website. Just look for the '77 mach pictures under the car show photos at: www.stallionsgate.com Thanks again, --Tony Gr8pmkn1969@aol.com wrote: > Any tubing over 2 inch is extremely diffucult to put over the axle. > Especially if you want to take it out both sides. > > Eugene, 78 king > > ______________________________________________ > Faster, stronger and able to send millions > of emails in one click: the new Topica site! > http://www.topica.com/t/14 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 01:19:26 -0500 From: "Mark." Subject: Re: dual exhaust Tony Gloriosa wrote: > Hi there, > > My name is Tony. I'm new to the list here. Hi tony, Welcome. > .... The correct wires I need are the blue wires with the black boot > at the distributor and the orange boot at the plugs. Is there anyone > out there that has a set for the 302 in stock or can fabricate them? ... Unfortunately, No. If you find some ... Were the plug wires numbered on the 302? I seem to remember having a numbered set on my V8 at one time, and I have a factory set on the 2.8 and the wires are numbered. Just curious. -- Mark. mailto:D8Mach@yahoo.com MustangII.Org Locale: http://www.bright.net/~rheschel/locator Never argue with a fool, a bystander can't tell you apart. ( Mark Twain ). When in doubt, Hit the throttle. It may not help, but it sure ends the suspense. ( Gaz?, rec.motorcycles ). __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 00:21:56 -0600 From: Tony Gloriosa Subject: Re: dual exhaust Yep, the wires were numbered. --Tony "Mark." wrote: > Tony Gloriosa wrote: > > > Hi there, > > > > My name is Tony. I'm new to the list here. > > Hi tony, Welcome. > > > .... The correct wires I need are the blue wires with the black boot > > at the distributor and the orange boot at the plugs. Is there anyone > > out there that has a set for the 302 in stock or can fabricate them? ... > > Unfortunately, No. If you find some ... > > Were the plug wires numbered on the 302? I seem to remember having a numbered > set on my V8 at one time, and I have a factory set on the 2.8 and the wires are > numbered. > > Just curious. > > -- > > Mark. > mailto:D8Mach@yahoo.com > > MustangII.Org Locale: > http://www.bright.net/~rheschel/locator > > Never argue with a fool, a bystander can't tell you apart. ( Mark Twain ). > When in doubt, Hit the throttle. It may not help, but it sure ends the > suspense. ( Gaz?, rec.motorcycles ). > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com > > ______________________________________________ > Faster, stronger and able to send millions > of emails in one click: the new Topica site! > http://www.topica.com/t/14 ------------------------------ End of mustangii@topica.com digest, issue 28 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 20 of 46 From: mustangii@topica.com Save Address -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To: mustangii@topica.com Subject: Digest for mustangii@topica.com, issue 29 Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 21:07:53 -0800 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Topica Digest -- Fwd: Re: INSTRUMENT PANEL TRIM By cobra_2_76@yahoo.com Mustang II Network Update By tgrahl@iocenter.net Re: Mustang II Respect By zstlkr@aol.com Re: dual exhaust By DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Re: INSTRUMENT PANEL TRIM By DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Re: Mustang II Network Update By DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Re: dual exhaust By manningtom@hotmail.com Registry By tgrahl@iocenter.net Re: dual exhaust By aglorios@bobcat.bradley.edu Rebel sales? By kmwatts@n-connect.net Re: Rebel sales? By Cobraii976@aol.com Re: dual exhaust By stang2boy@aol.com Cross Member By jww159@mustangii.net Re: dual exhaust By DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Re: Cross Member By DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Re: dual exhaust By stang2boy@aol.com Fw: I own a King Cobra... By kenhelencreamore@home.com Re: Fw: I own a King Cobra... By Cor1580@aol.com Re: Fw: I own a King Cobra... By DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Re: dual exhaust By RCStenic@prodigy.net Rear axles By RCStenic@prodigy.net Re: Rear axles By aglorios@bobcat.bradley.edu Rear Axles part 2 By RCStenic@prodigy.net RE: Rear axles By a351must@premier1.net Re: Cross Member By jkepling@gte.net Re: Cross Member By Cobraii976@aol.com RE: Rear axles By vbeauvais@home.com Re: Rear axles By jkepling@gte.net Re: Rear axles By Cobraii976@aol.com Re: Cross Member By jww159@mustangii.net ------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 04:32:15 -0800 (PST) From: David Wilson Subject: Fwd: Re: INSTRUMENT PANEL TRIM --0-1804289383-949321935=:22216 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline I'm really interested in the dash bezel restoration kit, but did't get a reply to my question, so I'm guessing it didn't get through...so I'll try again. How much for the kit to re-do the brushed aluminum face on the dash bezel? What is in the kit and what is it made of, metal, vinyl or paint? How do you apply it? Note: forwarded message attached. ===== Dave Wilson Cobra_2_76@yahoo.com My Cobra II, hosted by Dan Polk http://www.northpro.net/~polk/mii/ My home page is : http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Speedway/7500/index.html alt mail: Dwilson@ftmc.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com --0-1804289383-949321935=:22216 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Received: from [209.45.192.35] by web119.yahoomail.com; Sat, 29 Jan 2000 15:23:10 PST Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2000 15:23:10 -0800 (PST) From: David Wilson Subject: Re: INSTRUMENT PANEL TRIM To: mustangii@topica.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Length: 868 So I'll bite, how much for the kit to re-do the brushed aluminum face on the dash bezel. What is in the kit and what is it made of? How do you apply it? --- rebelmust@aol.com wrote: > rebelmustang is a good source for good used inst. > bezels,thay also sell a > kit to > re do your brushed alum. on your bezel. > rebelmust@aol.com > > > ______________________________________________ > Faster, stronger and able to send millions > of emails in one click: the new Topica site! > http://www.topica.com/t/14 > ===== Dave Wilson Cobra_2_76@yahoo.com My Cobra II, hosted by Dan Polk http://www.northpro.net/~polk/mii/ My home page is : http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Speedway/7500/index.html alt mail: Dwilson@ftmc.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com --0-1804289383-949321935=:22216-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 08:17:32 -0500 From: "Timothy M. Grahl" Subject: Mustang II Network Update This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0093_01BF6BC3.9F49C570 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0094_01BF6BC3.9F49C570" ------=_NextPart_001_0094_01BF6BC3.9F49C570 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Starting this week, probably Wednesday, the site will be hosted by a = different provider. I am moving the site to a server located where I am = currently employed. I will have 24 / 7 access to the server to prevent = downtime. As you may have seen, some of the services were down this = weekend due to problems with my existing hosting service which I have no = control over. This is not satisfactory to me so we will be switching. = You should notice no downtime during the switch and will probably notice = an improvement in speed and reliability. Thank you for your patience = during this switchover. Timothy M. 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Vance ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 09:12:06 EST From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Subject: Re: Mustang II Network Update thanks..... ur doing a fine job as is.... better will be best.... thanks ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 06:37:35 PST From: "Tom Manning" Subject: Re: dual exhaust I had a simmilar problem only i have a 302 with a paxton supercharger so i went the way of using 4 1/2 inch stainless single into a custom stainless muffler about the size of two tomato juice cans it is no louder than a pair of glasspacks and gives me about 10 hp boost from the stock single allthough the paxton giver me all the power i need the whole deal cost me about $700.00 and the fabricator that did the work is a buddy of mine allthough you dont have to use stainless or custom muffler that will probibly save you $200.00 keep in mind i'm in canada where thd doller is only .60 cents good luck! mach 1 tom >From: Tony Gloriosa >Reply-To: mustangii@topica.com >To: mustangii@topica.com >Subject: Re: dual exhaust >Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 22:00:14 -0800 > >Hi there, > >My name is Tony. I'm new to the list here. I have a '77 mach 1 with a >302 4-spd. What caught my attention was the question about dual exhaust >out the back of a II. I have seen it done only once, and that was by a >guy who was a welder and bender by trade. He did it on his '76 cobra >II. He mentioned he was restricted to a 2" pipe not only because of >over the axle but because he could not fit a larger pipe in between the >leaf spring and gas tank on the driver's side correctly. I decided to >avoid that headache on my mach by running pipes out both sides before >the rear wheels. This will also allow you to run larger pipes. > >I also have a question for everyone out there. My car is a 97/100 point >car (street driven judging, it's unrestored too!) and one of the things >I need to eek out those last few points is a correct set of plug wires. >Right now I have gray wires with black boots (generic 5.0 wires from the >'80s). The correct wires I need are the blue wires with the black boot >at the distributor and the orange boot at the plugs. Is there anyone >out there that has a set for the 302 in stock or can fabricate them? I >tried Mustang of Chicago and waited for 3 months only for them to tell >me they couldn't come up with the correct set and color. Any help on >this would be appreciated. > >If anyone is interested there are a couple of pictures of my car on the >stallions gate mustang club website. Just look for the '77 mach >pictures under the car show photos at: www.stallionsgate.com > >Thanks again, > >--Tony > >Gr8pmkn1969@aol.com wrote: > > > Any tubing over 2 inch is extremely diffucult to put over the axle. > > Especially if you want to take it out both sides. > > > > Eugene, 78 king > > > > ______________________________________________ > > Faster, stronger and able to send millions > > of emails in one click: the new Topica site! > > http://www.topica.com/t/14 > > > >______________________________________________ >Faster, stronger and able to send millions >of emails in one click: the new Topica site! >http://www.topica.com/t/14 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 10:10:07 -0500 From: "Timothy M. 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It has the standard black stripes below the belt line with mach 1 behind the front tires, and black around the tail lights. VIN is 7F05F. DoUFeelThis2@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 1/31/00 12:00:32 AM Central Standard Time, > aglorios@bobcat.bradley.edu writes: > > << www.stallionsgate.com >> > i looked at ur stang..... fabulous.... mine is the same fatback and all > red.... is ur's black at the bottom panels? does it say 'cobra' and where > are the emblems.....? i have a fastback rarity; its a ghia... but no opera > windows..... just excatly like urs.... yet, it has all ghia emblems; its a > v8; interior is white; plush; someone said the car is a former prototype > shown at McComick Place at the 1975 car show (it's a '76 fastback ghia)..... > others say.... without the opera windows.... its no ghia.... any thoughts? > maybe its a spiced up cobra..... it runs like the wind; auto transmission but > a very large 9" rear end...... help? thanks > > ______________________________________________ > Faster, stronger and able to send millions > of emails in one click: the new Topica site! > http://www.topica.com/t/14 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 11:01:09 -0600 From: "kmwatts" Subject: Rebel sales? Would anyone have the proper email address for I believe his name is Steve? at rebel sales?...thanks in advance. Kenneth Watts ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 12:56:17 EST From: COBRAII976@aol.com Subject: Re: Rebel sales? RebelMust@AOl.COM Dave 76 CobraII ADE MustangII New Used Repro parts and Restoration services. www.MustangII.Net www.MOCSEM.Com ICQ #24507973 AOL IM Cobraii976 MSN Messenger ADEMUSTANGII ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 14:47:57 EST From: Stang2boy@aol.com Subject: Re: dual exhaust In a message dated 1/31/100 9:19:27 AM MST, aglorios@bobcat.bradley.edu writes: << Mine is an all stock metallic brown mach 1 with a vinyl chamois interior. It has the standard black stripes below the belt line with mach 1 behind the front tires, and black around the tail lights. VIN is 7F05F. >> Coo............ That is about the same as mine, Only mine is a 74 vin 4F05Z, The cool thing about mine, Is the rear axle code is X, 3:55posi, It is fun. I can't remeber who asked for us to put our location down, But I am In Rapid City SD, I am new to the list also, I have 4 mustang II's, Well, Talk to you all later Rick Schmidt Rapid City, South Dakota 74 Mach 1, 2.8 4spd, (pullin motor, puttin in the other 74, so I can give it some TLC, Also need to put together good 4spd) 74 Mach 1, 2.8L 4spd, (Parts Car, I found another one) 74 Hatch back 2.8L, auto (putting motor from mach 1, So I can do work to the Mach 1) 75 coupe 2.3L, 4spd(just need to get time to swap motors. Workin on getting Turbo, with 5spd) 77 Cobra (Found 351w for, OHHHHHH joy. Wanna see how many 5.0s i can make cry, Still debating on putting the 302 back in it though, What ever happens happens I guess, Found 5spd for it, Woo Hoo!!!!!!!!!!!) 79 coupe (soon to be 302, auto, or mabe a 351w) 79 hatch back Ghia (Rod Project, Found Cleavland for it, True Rod project:):):) ICQ# 32971047 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 14:58:29 -0800 From: "Joseph Werner" Subject: Cross Member I am trying to fix a bent cross member the big one under the engen I was wondering if I could unbult it or if it is welded in. I was also wndering how to go about fixing it the previous owner ran it in to a rock. Joe ------------------------------------------------------------ Get your free email at the Mustang II Network http://www.mustangii.net ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 19:33:40 EST From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Subject: Re: dual exhaust hey guys.... i had my front end completely overhauled; new exhaust too.... and while under the car the mechanic said my 'f' vin is not correct; he said the tranny and rear end are for a v8. can someone tell me how to identify my diffential as to which it is; posi? 9"; etc..... the mechanic said its a locker 12"....but i'd like to know for sure; also; how can i ID the tranny? thanks... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 19:36:41 EST From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Subject: Re: Cross Member mine was 'bottoming' out before i went thru a complete suspension rebuild on the front in.... go to a front end shop and have them measure the distances from the wheel inward to a spot he will know is the same position on both sides.... mine turned out to be within tolerance so no need to put in a new crossmember..... hope this helps.... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 19:45:38 EST From: Stang2boy@aol.com Subject: Re: dual exhaust Look at the door, it should have a Trans and Axle code Rick Schmidt Rapid City, South Dakota 74 Mach 1, 2.8 4spd, (pullin motor, puttin in the other 74, so I can give it some TLC, Also need to put together good 4spd) 74 Mach 1, 2.8L 4spd, (Parts Car, I found another one) 74 Hatch back 2.8L, auto (putting motor from mach 1, So I can do work to the Mach 1) 75 coupe 2.3L, 4spd(just need to get time to swap motors. Workin on getting Turbo, with 5spd) 77 Cobra (Found 351w for, OHHHHHH joy. Wanna see how many 5.0s i can make cry, Still debating on putting the 302 back in it though, What ever happens happens I guess, Found 5spd for it, Woo Hoo!!!!!!!!!!!) 79 coupe (soon to be 302, auto, or mabe a 351w) 79 hatch back Ghia (Rod Project, Found Cleavland for it, True Rod project:):):) ICQ# 32971047 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 16:50:37 -0800 From: "Ken Helen Creamore" Subject: Fw: I own a King Cobra... Here is a 1978 King Cobra for Sale ! Ken Creamore King Cobra Online ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2000 2:59 PM Subject: I own a King Cobra... > I own a King Cobra that was made in San Jose. The pictures of the car can be > seen at: > http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Pit/6016/kc.html > > This car is in a reasonably good condition. But as you have mentioned on your > website, it will need a little bit of work to bring it to showroom condition. > Only problem is its paint job. previous owner has painted it to a non-factory > original metallic burgandy. But its authenticity can be confirmed by the VIN > number and the bucktag on the radiator core support. > > Frankly, I would like to sell this car. I haven't the time to take care of > this car. If you can find a collector or aid me in selling this car, i'd be > glad to compensate you with a portion of the sold price. > > if you are interested, and are willing to help, please contact me at > MITCIA@aol.com > or page me at 213-707-4415. > > I hope i haven't been intrusive or too demanding on my first attempt to reach > you. > > thank you in adv. > Angel. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 19:52:32 EST From: COR1580@aol.com Subject: Re: Fw: I own a King Cobra... how much where from ??? LET ME KNOW thank you in advance........ Corey ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 20:48:11 EST From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com Subject: Re: Fw: I own a King Cobra... i will buy urs if u will buy mine... mine is a ghia... i'll give u $42 million dollars for ur's and i'll take $42,005,000.00 for mine... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 21:14:50 -0600 From: "Ralph C Stenic" Subject: Re: dual exhaust To tell if your rear axle is a 9" one of the nuts on the bottom of the pig can only be taken off with a wrench. On the 8" which is what was installed from the factory all bolts or nuts can be removed with a socket and ratchet. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, January 31, 2000 6:34 PM Subject: Re: dual exhaust > hey guys.... i had my front end completely overhauled; new exhaust too.... > and while under the car the mechanic said my 'f' vin is not correct; he said > the tranny and rear end are for a v8. can someone tell me how to identify my > diffential as to which it is; posi? 9"; etc..... the mechanic said its a > locker 12"....but i'd like to know for sure; also; how can i ID the tranny? > thanks... > > > ______________________________________________ > Faster, stronger and able to send millions > of emails in one click: the new Topica site! > http://www.topica.com/t/14 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 21:22:18 -0600 From: "Ralph C Stenic" Subject: Rear axles This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BF6C31.40B89860 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Okay this is what i want to do. I have a 76 Cobra II that I am = restoring. I would like to install a 9" ford into the car but I dont = want to get one and have it cut down. Is there a axle from another Ford = product that will work with out any modification to the asm. Also I have = read articals on the Cobra II in 76 that Ford did not do the upfit on = the cars. They were actually sent to a local upfitter that did the = upgrade. Is there any truth to this. If so it would make this car even = more valuable.=20 Ralph rcstenic@prodigy.net Oak Park, Mi. 1976 Cobra II ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BF6C31.40B89860 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Okay this is what i want to do. I have a 76 Cobra II = that I am=20 restoring. I would like to install a 9" ford into the car but I dont = want to get=20 one and have it cut down. Is there a axle from another Ford product that = will=20 work with out any modification to the asm. Also I have read articals on = the=20 Cobra II in 76 that Ford did not do the upfit on the cars. They were = actually=20 sent to a local upfitter that did the upgrade. Is there any truth to = this. If so=20 it would make this car even more valuable. Ralph rcstenic@prodigy.net Oak Park, Mi. 1976 Cobra II ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01BF6C31.40B89860-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 20:28:22 -0600 From: Tony Gloriosa Subject: Re: Rear axles --------------7009987C8D01D8DDA6B7B9EA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I know that the rear end from a Grenada will bolt right in. The only drawback or plus depending on the situation is that you now have a five lug hub on the rear wheels --Tony Ralph C Stenic wrote: > Okay this is what i want to do. I have a 76 Cobra II that I am > restoring. I would like to install a 9" ford into the car but I dont > want to get one and have it cut down. Is there a axle from another > Ford product that will work with out any modification to the asm. Also > I have read articals on the Cobra II in 76 that Ford did not do the > upfit on the cars. They were actually sent to a local upfitter that > did the upgrade. Is there any truth to this. If so it would make this > car even more valuable. Ralphrcstenic@prodigy.netOak Park, Mi.1976 > Cobra II --------------7009987C8D01D8DDA6B7B9EA Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I know that the rear end from a Grenada will bolt right in. The only drawback or plus depending on the situation is that you now have a five lug hub on the rear wheels --Tony Ralph C Stenic wrote: Okay this is what i want to do. I have a 76 Cobra II that I am restoring. I would like to install a 9" ford into the car but I dont want to get one and have it cut down. Is there a axle from another Ford product that will work with out any modification to the asm. Also I have read articals on the Cobra II in 76 that Ford did not do the upfit on the cars. They were actually sent to a local upfitter that did the upgrade. Is there any truth to this. If so it would make this car even more valuable. Ralphrcstenic@prodigy.netOak Park, Mi.1976 Cobra II --------------7009987C8D01D8DDA6B7B9EA-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 21:48:47 -0600 From: "Ralph C Stenic" Subject: Rear Axles part 2 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01BF6C34.F3E789C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That is what i want is the five lug plus durablity. Ralph ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01BF6C34.F3E789C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That is what i want is the five lug plus=20 durablity. Ralph ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01BF6C34.F3E789C0-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 20:15:25 -0800 From: "Darryl Lang" Subject: RE: Rear axles The direct fit 9" rears are '65-'66 Mustang and any compatible Fairlane or Falcon 9", and the '57-'59 Ford passenger car (Fairlaine, Galaxy, etc). The Granada, Monarch, Versailles is a little narrower bet still fits. All of them require some spring perch work. The housing width is 52.25" backing plate to backing plate, and the perch width is 43". The Mustang II is 52" & 43" respectively, but the II perches are narrower so the centering pins end up closer together. I've crammed a '59 Galaxy rear into a '74, but it really needs to come back out and get done right. The 11" drums are nice and it makes for an easy 5-lug conversion in the rear, plus all the disc brake kits will work with them. Darryl -----Original Message----- Okay this is what i want to do. I have a 76 Cobra II that I am restoring. I would like to install a 9" ford into the car but I dont want to get one and have it cut down. Is there a axle from another Ford product that will work with out any modification to the asm. Also I have read articals on the Cobra II in 76 that Ford did not do the upfit on the cars. They were actually sent to a local upfitter that did the upgrade. Is there any truth to this. If so it would make this car even more valuable. Ralph rcstenic@prodigy.net Oak Park, Mi. 1976 Cobra II ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 23:22:50 -0500 From: "James Keplinger" Subject: Re: Cross Member If it were mine I would order a new cross member from fatman or any other rod and custom shop. Torch your old one off the frame and weld the new one in ( factory center cross members are welded in ). don't forget to check your frame rails and floor pans, if they are bent you need to have them pulled before installing the new cross member. "I went though the same thing with my pinto wagon ! " Jason -----Original Message----- From: Joseph Werner To: mustangii@topica.com Date: Monday, January 31, 2000 7:04 PM Subject: Cross Member I am trying to fix a bent cross member the big one under the engen I was wondering if I could unbult it or if it is welded in. I was also wndering how to go about fixing it the previous owner ran it in to a rock. Joe ------------------------------------------------------------ Get your free email at the Mustang II Network http://www.mustangii.net ______________________________________________ Faster, stronger and able to send millions of emails in one click: the new Topica site! http://www.topica.com/t/14 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 23:32:01 EST From: COBRAII976@aol.com Subject: Re: Cross Member That cross member is welded and a huge part of the front subframe I would see if I could find a good frame shop to straighten that out. Dave 76 CobraII ADE MustangII New Used Repro parts and Restoration services. www.MustangII.Net www.MOCSEM.Com ICQ #24507973 AOL IM Cobraii976 MSN Messenger ADEMUSTANGII ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 20:41:50 -0800 From: "Vincent Beauvais" Subject: RE: Rear axles This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01BF6C2B.99990880 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mustang Red Book says the Cobra II package was done by Motortown Corporation for the 76s. 77s and 78s were done by Ford. I can't see this adding any extra value to the car though, since all Motortown would have done to the cars was add the stripes & decals (possibly the spoilers too -the Cobra II door panels were no doubt installed at the factory). Vince -----Original Message----- From: Ralph C Stenic [mailto:RCStenic@prodigy.net] Sent: Monday, January 31, 2000 6:14 PM To: mustangii@topica.com Subject: Rear axles ... Also I have read articals on the Cobra II in 76 that Ford did not do the upfit on the cars. They were actually sent to a local upfitter that did the upgrade. Is there any truth to this. If so it would make this car even more valuable. Ralph rcstenic@prodigy.net Oak Park, Mi. 1976 Cobra II ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01BF6C2B.99990880 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mustang Red Book says the Cobra II package = was done by=20 Motortown Corporation for the 76s. 77s and 78s were done by Ford. I = can't=20 see this adding any extra value to the car though, since = all Motortown=20 would have done to the cars was add the stripes & decals (possibly = the=20 spoilers too -the Cobra II door panels were no doubt installed at = the=20 factory). Vince -----Original Message----- From: Ralph C Stenic=20 [mailto:RCStenic@prodigy.net] Sent: Monday, January 31, 2000 = 6:14=20 PM To: mustangii@topica.com Subject: Rear=20 axles ... Also I have read articals on = the Cobra=20 II in 76 that Ford did not do the upfit on the cars. They were = actually sent=20 to a local upfitter that did the upgrade. Is there any truth to this. = If so it=20 would make this car even more valuable. Ralph rcstenic@prodigy.net Oak Park, Mi. 1976 Cobra = II ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01BF6C2B.99990880-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 23:39:32 -0500 From: "James Keplinger" Subject: Re: Rear axles This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0032_01BF6C44.6C5D6820 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mustang II's came out factory with only two different rear ends. 7.5" = rear end has a rear cover like a chevy, came out mainly in 4cylinder = II's. 8" rear ends look like the notorious 9" but is not. axles and = carriers will interchange from the 9" to the 8" but ring and pinion = willnot. most noticeable difference is the cast iron lip over top of the = pinion yoke on the 8" rear ends. the closest fit to a 9" is out of a 64 = 1/2, 65, 66 mustang but you will have to cut and move the spring = perches, and it is about 1" wider.=20 -----Original Message----- From: Ralph C Stenic To: mustangii@topica.com Date: Monday, January 31, 2000 9:16 PM Subject: Rear axles =20 =20 Okay this is what i want to do. I have a 76 Cobra II that I am = restoring. I would like to install a 9" ford into the car but I dont = want to get one and have it cut down. Is there a axle from another Ford = product that will work with out any modification to the asm. Also I have = read articals on the Cobra II in 76 that Ford did not do the upfit on = the cars. They were actually sent to a local upfitter that did the = upgrade. Is there any truth to this. If so it would make this car even = more valuable.=20 =20 Ralph rcstenic@prodigy.net Oak Park, Mi. 1976 Cobra II ------=_NextPart_000_0032_01BF6C44.6C5D6820 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Transitional//EN"> Mustang II's came out factory with = only two=20 different rear ends. 7.5" rear end has a rear cover like a chevy, = came out=20 mainly in 4cylinder II's. 8" rear ends look like the = notorious=20 9" but is not. axles and carriers will interchange from the = 9"=20 to the 8" but ring and pinion willnot. most noticeable difference = is the=20 cast iron lip over top of the pinion yoke on the 8" rear ends. the = closest=20 fit to a 9" is out of a 64 1/2, 65, 66 mustang but you will have to = cut and=20 move the spring perches, and it is about 1" wider. -----Original = Message----- From:=20 Ralph C Stenic T= o:=20 mustangii@topica.com = D= ate:=20 Monday, January 31, 2000 9:16 PM Subject: Rear=20 axles Okay this is what i want to do. I have a 76 = Cobra II that=20 I am restoring. I would like to install a 9" ford into the car = but I=20 dont want to get one and have it cut down. Is there a axle from = another Ford=20 product that will work with out any modification to the asm. Also I = have=20 read articals on the Cobra II in 76 that Ford did not do the upfit = on the=20 cars. They were actually sent to a local upfitter that did the = upgrade. Is=20 there any truth to this. If so it would make this car even more = valuable.=20 Ralph rcstenic@prodigy.net Oak Park, Mi. 1976 Cobra = II ------=_NextPart_000_0032_01BF6C44.6C5D6820-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 23:48:16 EST From: COBRAII976@aol.com Subject: Re: Rear axles Well your close but NO 7.5's in a II it's a 6.75 Dave 76 CobraII ADE MustangII New Used Repro parts and Restoration services. www.MustangII.Net www.MOCSEM.Com ICQ #24507973 AOL IM Cobraii976 MSN Messenger ADEMUSTANGII ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 21:02:09 -0800 From: "Joseph Werner" Subject: Re: Cross Member Thanks for the info I think mine is past any tolerance but I will look for a frount end shop. Joe >To: mustangii@topica.com >From: DoUFeelThis2@aol.com >Subject: Re: Cross Member >Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 16:37:12 -0800 >Reply-To: mustangii@topica.com > >mine was 'bottoming' out before i went thru a complete suspension rebuild on >the front in.... go to a front end shop and have them measure the distances >from the wheel inward to a spot he will know is the same position on both >sides.... mine turned out to be within tolerance so no need to put in a new >crossmember..... hope this helps.... > > >______________________________________________ >Faster, stronger and able to send millions >of emails in one click: the new Topica site! >http://www.topica.com/t/14 ------------------------------------------------------------ Get your free email at the Mustang II Network http://www.mustangii.net ------------------------------ End of mustangii@topica.com digest, issue 29 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------